User talk:Ixbran

Edit summaries
Howdy, Ixbran! I just wanted to address this edit you made recently, because your edit summary was rather confrontational. Here at Zelda Wiki, we prefer for users to work out disagreements amongst themselves without involving everyone else. In the future, if you don't agree with what someone is doing, please try to be more professional when you bring this up. Don't "call someone out" in the edit summary; rather, make your edit and state your brief reasoning in a polite manner in the edit summary, and then contact the user directly on his or her talk page to elaborate on why you made the edit. Again, we don't tolerate confrontational behavior, and we like to prevent fighting before it starts. You are expected to treat all fellow editors with respect, regardless of what they are doing. Please keep this in mind as you edit the wiki. 10:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I just find it irritating when people go around deleting and changing things simply because they want things their way. When I posted those videos i was only trying to help, and when I was told videos ' weren't allowed ' on character galleries, i let it go. However when i noticed a video was posted in Zant's gallery, i figured perhaps they were wrong. So I put them back on the pretense that since videos were allowed in zants gallery, they could go in others. Then not only did they go and remove the videos from the other pages, but also from zants gallery, despite it being there for who knows how long. And even then, they never provided a proper explanation as to WHY it isn't allowed. They simply said it wasn't allowed, and went into no further details. Maybe I wouldn't have to resort to calling them names, if they just explained the situation too me. I can't stand control freaks like that, who think they can go in and change things and boss people around just because they hold some form of seniority over others. That is is both a form of power abuse and bullying, something I can not, and will not, stand for. If I see someone acting like a bully or an ass hole, I WILL call them out on it! Ixbran (talk) 11:30, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Please keep discussions on the same page as it says right above the edit field surrounded by a  bright, yellow notice .
 * Keep in mind our editing etiquette when acting on the wiki, particularly the section about assuming good faith. The proper action in the first place would have been to ask about why there was this inconsistency instead of assuming that you could roll with it, so to speak. You also assumed that Chuck was acting as a bully, so you decided to take a more hostile response. This behavior is not acceptable and I would ask you to please refrain from doing so and instead opt for a more mild manner. Hostility will get you nowhere, at least nowhere worth being.
 * I for one feel that we shouldn't have videos on character gallery pages. They're largely irrelevant in my opinion. 12:45, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Well considering that Hyrule Warriors isnt the typical Zelda style game, its obvious the standard edit procedure wouldn't apply too it. Koei is known for releasing game play videos for their newest games, and its likely more are going to show up, link is obviously going to get two more since its confirmed from the E3 demo hes going to have at least four move sets. And Aonuma has even gone on record saying that there were somewhere around 52 playstyles. So I figured getting the videos posted on the respective character page galleries would be better than having 52+ videos on the games main page. Regarding the assuming good faith stuff, i'm sorry but its kind of hard for me to do that given my life's experiences. Dealing with bullies my entire life, its hard for me to assume anyone is a good person unless they show it to me. My first reaction towards people who do things without an explanation is bullying, sorry hun just how i grew up, i'm not going to change my way of thinking over night just for it to be convenient for you. I will try, but considering I've delt with bullying and elitism within the Zelda fan base before, don't expect me to be anything but on edge while working here.  I'm only here to provide help regarding Hyrule Warriors, and once all the necessary pages are made and the info posted, I wont be here much anymore. The Zelda fan base is, based on my own personal experience, worse than the Final Fantasy fan base and anime fan base's in general. It's sad since Zelda is what got me into gaming, but really I want nothing to do with any of you. I'm just here to help with Hyrule Warriors, and that's that. I'm familiar with Koei's Warriors titles, and am most active on the Koei Wiki, So I'm just here to make sure y'all don't just ignore this title like most Zelda Elitists are trying to do. Ixbran (talk) 20:56, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * I'll be frank and say that I'm generally against using videos on the wiki because it lags my computer, so 52 videos divided among the character galleries sounds like a nightmare. The gallery pages are already data-heavy by featuring so many images, so videos only serve to increase that work load. What I feel would be a better (more effective) alternative is to describe these play styles on the relevant character pages and then simply cite the video as a reference so that people can still find it without it being taxing. In truth, I believe that this will supersede the presence of videos on the gallery pages regardless.
 * I'm very sorry for your life experiences and I can definitely understand where you're coming from with it, but speaking from experience I find that being able to respond to things rationally and in a collected manner is an amazing ability to learn. Doing so wouldn't only benefit those around you, but yourself as well.
 * I'd also like to assert that we're a wiki for all things Zelda. Hyrule Warriors isn't remotely in jeopardy because of a few elitists and it certainly wouldn't be ignored. In any case, no fandom is perfect so there's bound to be undesirable attitudes throughout it. We're grateful that you're here to help, but please do not fall prey to the illusion that we're here to bully anyone or act as elitists. 22:22, 1 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Well considering character videos is something Koei does for their games, I figured y'all might want them. Since I'm sure most here arent used too the idea of a Zelda action game. As for move set descriptions, those are best to wait till the game is out. though question, what are your intents on character move sets descriptions and button inputs? Will you be making separate Pages for the Hylian Sword, Magic Rod, Rapier, and Giant Blade specifically for their Hyrule Warriors appearances? I figure that might best since it wouldn't take up space on character pages. Not to mention there is going to be weapon synthesizing and using rupees to enhance weapons stats according to what we've been told. And with characters confirmed to have multiple move sets, that means some characters will have multiple move set related pages for this game And you'd be surprised, some times i have found certain wikis not gathering info on certain games in a franchise simply because the majority of editors simply don't care for the title in question. I came here with the intention, and honestly the expectation, of being the only one working on the Hyrule warriors page simply because, based on the hate from zelda elitists, the page was going to be left abandoned with hardly any info. That combined with the fact that Dynasty Warriors tends to get a lot of hate from most gamers, I came into this wiki expecting hate and abuse from everyone. Hence my reactions too the one guy deleting the videos, it's what I was expecting to happen.  Again I will try to trust the judgement of the contributors on this wiki, but it is going to be very difficult. Ixbran (talk) 02:53, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Citing claims
Hey, Ixbran. Fellow editors have been concerned that you've been making a lot of edits with unsourced claims. While they're likely true, could you please start citing these? It makes Zelda Wiki look more professional and adds to our credibility, in addition to dispelling any suspicions towards the information. For example, you report that the Wind Waker is known as the "Tactitioner's Baton", but I myself am highly skeptical towards this and I think it might be a mistranslation (at most, I've found it referred to as "Takuto", which is just "baton"). Could you link me to exactly where you found that information so I may confirm it? 22:14, 19 July 2014 (UTC)


 * A fellow wiki contributor from the Koei Wiki, who is fluent in japanese, claims the weapon is simply called the Tact. However, as you said, others are stating its just Baton. Hes a friend of mine, and because of how fluent he is in japanese (hes helped the koei wiki by providing info on japanese only games that we would otherwise be unable to provide), I feel his words are worth trusting. but at the same time, hes been known to simplify translations to keep info on the koei wiki simple and to the point. I figure that beacuse of this, its possible the weapon is called the Tacticians Baton, since hes known for simplifying translations, he went with the shortest name for the Koei Wiki, while Other sites are likely using Baton since its easier to asiciate the word with the wind waker. I also figured that it would be a good middle ground to go with so people wont get confused when some sites call it baton, while others might go the simpler rout like my friend, and call it the tact. Though I consider it a place holder, since once her english trailer for that weapon is out, were most likely gonna change it to that regardless of its japanese name. Im sorry if Ive caused any problems. Ixbran (talk) 00:42, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Well the problem with "Tact" is that "Takuto" is the Japanese word for baton, not anything related to tactitians (iirc it comes from a German loan word, but don't quote me on that). The Wind Waker itself is called "Kaze no Takuto, or the "baton of wind". Since everything seems to be pointing to it still being named the Wind Waker, I'm going to change the instances of "Tactitian's Baton" to the proper name. 00:55, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * alright hun, again sorry if i caused any problems. Ixbran (talk) 04:11, 21 July 2014 (UTC)