User talk:Adam/Archive 3


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= 2008 Q2 (Apr-Jun) =

WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
YOU REVERTED ALL MY EDITS AND DELETED ALL MY PICTURES? WHY THE HECK DID YOU DO THAT? I HATE YOU! DID YOU REALLY NEED TO DO THAT? HONESTLY, WHAT WAS THAT FOR? Toon Link 2 16:48, 1 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Hi. I'll deal with your points in the order raised:


 * 1) Q. YOU REVERTED ALL MY EDITS AND DELETED ALL MY PICTURES? A. Is that a question or a statement? Anyway, yes, I deleted all of the images you uploaded and reverted the edits adding them into articles.
 * 2) Q. WHY THE HECK DID YOU DO THAT? A. Because they were inappropriate (see below).
 * 3) Q. I HATE YOU! A. You're entitled to feel however you want towards me. I'm not here to be liked. However, it's not appropriate to express such sentiments here, and if you'd said this to any other user than myself I would have blocked you without warning.
 * 4) Q. DID YOU REALLY NEED TO DO THAT? A. Erm... yes, I'm afraid so.
 * 5) Q. HONESTLY, WHAT WAS THAT FOR? A. The quality of the wiki.
 * Let me just say that I appreciate the sentiment behind your edits; you showed great enthusiasm. However, there were a number of issues:Revert Toon Link 2.jpg


 * 1) The images were of poor quality (blurred, discoloured and distorted)
 * 2) They were extremely large (file size and dimensions)
 * 3) They were positioned poorly on the pages
 * 4) Many duplicated images already present (see right)
 * 5) Although you weren't to know this, I have 80 high quality images on my HDD of all of the remaining figurines. That I haven't made time to upload them yet is partly due to the fact that much of my time here is spent patrolling edits and not contributing myself.


 * I apologise if you feel aggrieved, but I have to do what's best for article quality, and unfortunately your edits decreased the quality of those articles. (P.S. BLOCK CAPITALS ARE NEVER AN APPROPRIATE FORM OF EXPRESSION) —Adam (talk) 17:19, 1 April 2008 (EDT)

1. Question. 2. How could they be inappropriate? 3. Ok, thanks for telling me. 4. Darn. 5. Thanks, I will now avoid uploading dupliates. 6. Will you please help me fix this? 7. Same as 6. 8. Where should I put them, then? 9. Same as 5. 10. Ok then.

Thanks for the explaination. I will try to get better quality on my images.

Thanks
The nomination for the Pedestal of Time was the first nomination I ever did on this site and since I'm new, it's good to see I did something right here. Thanks for nominating that and, by the way, would you like to be friends?

--Seablue254 15:43, 3 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Hey, you're in luck; my default setting is "friend" :) —Adam (talk) 17:06, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

Thanks :)--Seablue254 19:32, 3 April 2008 (EDT)

how do you make someone a friend--Zanramon ( &#39; .&#39; ) look its kirby &#91;&#39;_&gt;&#39;] 16:31, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

You ask them if they want to be freinds or get to know them and then you just kind of become freinds overtime.--Link hero of light 18:52, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Ok, thank you for deleting those obscene images. Oh, and sorry for putting this thanks note here. The page is a little big and i didn't think I should add another section. --Seablue254 19:15, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

How do you do that?
How do you get your signature to say Adam when your username is Adam all the time? Can you teach me how to get mine to say David (My first name)? Oh, and how do you get that little talk thing in parenthesis on the right side of your name to appear? Any help is appreciated.

--Seablue254 15:48, 4 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Well, I'm not Adam, but I can still tell you how to do this. :P Basically, just click "my preferences" in the top-right of the screen, make sure that "Raw signatures" is checked (this will allow you to make whatever signature you want), then in the "Nickname" box, just type in what you want to have appear as your signature, making sure to link your name to your user page (using whateveryouwantyournametobe ). The "(Talk)" like Adam has is achieved similarly; just with Talk.
 * You can test it out after you've saved it by just typing the ~ on a page and clicking Show preview. That way, you don't have to save something that may not have worked. Hope that helps. --Ando (T : C) 15:54, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Ok. now I can get my name to say David. (Check out the signature). However, when i checked on raw signatures, it didn't make the signature a link, but it worked when not checked. Weird? Hm. Anyway, will i need to type out the talk link, or is there a way to do that while still typing the ~? Thanks. --David 17:13, 4 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Well, the "Raw signature" button, when unchecked, automatically makes whatever you type in the Nickname box linked. So you have to actually type the link in the Nickname box, while leaving the Raw signature button checked. For instance, in my Nickname box, I have this:  Ando (Talk) . The first part gives my name, with the link to my user page, and the second part links to my talk. And all of it is generated with the ~, including the time (which you don't need to do anything special to add). Feel free to copy and paste my code, editing it as you need to. --Ando (T : C) 17:20, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Cool! Thanks Ando, I find this really helpful! It's really cool! I probably be playing around with this until I find something I like, but this is helpful! Thanks again! --David (Talk) 17:42, 4 April 2008 (EDT)


 * Hey, no problem. Heh, I just realized that the code I posted was for my old signature; my current one is different. Oh well, it still works, yeah? :P Glad I could help, though. Have fun tweaking it. --Ando (T : C) 18:05, 4 April 2008 (EDT)

Dividing the Workload
Yeah, this was something I was thinking about, as well. I know that alternating days might be the best option I can think of, but there still might be issues with that if something unexpected arises that keeps us from the Wiki all day (as was demonstrated by myself yesterday)... But I guess one of us could just pick up the extra slack for that day if that were to happen. So perhaps we should go for that? Also, thanks for the welcome. :D --Ando (T : C) 17:18, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Cool, well to start with do you wanna take care of today's edits and I'll mark up everything left over from yesterday? Then we could just alternate from there. And yeah, we can just play it by ear if one of us is away for a while. Also, I'm gonna make an assumption that your recent changes is set to "advanced" (groups edits of the same article), and that you've spotted your new "hide patrolled" feature? —Adam (talk) 17:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. We'll go with that.
 * Also, I've found the "Hide patrolled edits" button, but... not the "advanced". From your description it sounds awesome. Where do I find this miracle button? :O --Ando (T : C) 18:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Scratch that. I found it. I'm honestly not sure how it helps, though (I can't even find the "mark as patrolled" button in this state). Think I might just stick with the regular format. --Ando (T : C) 18:18, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops, it would've helped if I'd actually told you the right name :) What I'm guessing you realised I was getting at was the Enhanced recent changes option in Preferences under Recent Changes. It has advantages and disadvantages over the regular view, and it took me a while to get used to. But I find it a lot easier to be able to view all multiple changes to an article at one straight from Recent Changes, without them being scattered all over. Anyway, whichever you prefer, it's just useful to know it's there if you need it. Also, do you use Firefox? I could recommend some excellent time-saving plugins I use if you wanted ;) —Adam (talk) 21:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Question on template
I saw today that you helped make the templates on how to give credit for images. My question is.. on userboxes, will i need to use those templates on them, or will the change on the pictures page automatically update my image? Or is it just supposed to go on the pictures page and not the actual picture? Thanks for listening. --David (T : C) 19:32, 6 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Erm, if I've understood what I think you're asking, the new image templates should only be used on stuff in the "image" namespace. If that's not very clear, think of it like this: if the address/URL bar shows  http://www.zeldawiki.org/File:..... , then it needs a template. Otherwise, don't use one :) —Adam (talk) 21:09, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I understand it now. I thought that the template was actually supposed to be on the image. So i thought that i would have to open up the image in paint and actually paint something on to the image of my userboxes. I now see how stupid my question was ;) --David (T : C) 21:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Voting on Articles
If you have nominated a featured article in one month, are you allowed to make a vote in that same month? Or does the nomination count as a vote for the article nomination? --David (T : C) 19:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nominating an article or picture is entirely separate from your one vote per month. There's no limitations on nomination, other than that no more than four pictures may be nominated at any one time. There's currently no maximum limit on article nominations. For clarity, the maximum that you can do in any single calendar month is:

—Adam (talk) 20:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Unlimited article nominations (within reason)
 * 2) Unlimited picture nominations (up to the max. limit of four nominees at once)
 * 3) One article vote & one picture vote (not for anything you've nominated or previously voted for)
 * 4) Unlimited article & picture oppositions (one per article/picture, with reasoning/justification)

Thanks :) --David (T : C) 22:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Images
User_talk:Green_Tunic

Oh yeah sorry. I've been in and out a lot so I've missed a few things. Um that Zant picture I uploaded, I captured it from a movie would that mean I captured it? If you want to know I got it from the final part of the Zelda Retrospective on Gametrailers.--Green 20:52, 12 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, if you captured an image either directly from the game or from a video on the interweb, that makes it legitimately your work/effort. Same goes if you sufficiently edit an image (e.g crop, resize and add transparency). I added your name to the Zant image ;) —Adam (talk) 08:57, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout that
Hey, sorry for leaving all of that work over the past day and a half or so to you; I suddenly got really sick yesterday, and I'm still recovering. I should be back in full force here soon. ;) --Ando (T) 17:53, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, no problem! I've been doing it on my own for 9 months or so, so it's just nice to have some help :) (not trying to sound like a martyr ;) P.S. get well soon! —Adam (talk) 21:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Plugins
I just noticed the new userbox you have. I just noticed that you mentioned something about time saving plugins a while ago. I have been using the safari browser, though since I now notice that firefox has some useful plugins, can I know them ;)? Also, since you have some good userboxes, I have a US userbox you could use if you like? --David (T : C) 18:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, the plugins I was talking about were things like:


 * Tab Mix Plus
 * Snap Links
 * Tabs Menu
 * Undo Closed Tabs Button
 * Mainly I use them for opening and managing large amounts of tabs when patrolling edits, but they're also useful for adding templates to bulk images, for example. Also, thanks for offering the new template, but I actually live in the UK ;) —Adam (talk) 20:37, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Cool. Thanks for the plugins. By the way, I think the UK is pretty cool. They have great things, great people (like you), and especially great prog rock bands, like Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd (Who is actually on my user page because I have a video of them performing a song). Thanks again :) --David (T : C) 20:46, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks man! XD —Adam (talk) 21:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem! And good plugins. --David (T : C) 21:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey was wondering...
Why did you delete my addition to the Nyeve page..I put it under theory cuz it is a theory so its not really wrong. unless you deleted it for another reason like the way I wrote it...if you did you could have just changed it to make it better I don't mind and if it is cuz of the theory thing..what would you put it under?


 * Well, the theory seemed a little obscure and far fetched to me (triumph forks = a big fork on a stick?), but the biggest reason I removed the edit rather than calling for it to be improved/revised was that in writing it, you deleted all the categories for that article! Just be careful next time you edit not to over-type anything that's already there - it all has a purpose, even if it doesn't seem to you to be useful ;) —Adam (talk) 05:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

oooh ya after writing this I realized I did that...it was actually my first time writing so my bad.....but what else would that weapon be based on....I mean why not give him a crappy sword or just one that looks like the master sword..thats why I thought it must have some relevance....but Ill try and find out more bout it and if I cant find anything else then ill let it go cya later o by the way how do u make it so ur name appears after ur message like that

Hi, adding your name after comments on talk pages is called a signature, and it's highly encouraged that you always sign all comments (but never on articles themselves). For instructions, you can check what I wrote here, or ask me if you need any help :) —Adam (talk) 11:36, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Template
I don't mind you changing the template one bit. Just thanks for telling me. In fact, it seems a lot better now! Why didn't I think of that?! But thanks :) --David (T : C) 19:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Question
Well, as you may know, I have made a couple of userboxes. However, since I usually copy and paste stuff from another userbox into mine, I don't exactly know what everything means. For example, after looking at you Firefox userbox, i was wondering what "firefoxuser2" on the template did to it. So I was wondering, if you had the time, could you tell me what everything on the userbox code stands for? Since I am serious about this, I would really want to know. Thanks! And by the way, why do i have this green double-underlines on some words that pop up with ads? Is there any way to turn them off? Anyway, thanks very much! :) --David (T : C) 21:07, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll answer the second question first (because it's easier!); the answer is here.


 * With the userboxes, I get the feeling that most of what's confusing you is the CSS elements. A quick answer to the particular point you asked about (id) is here. Let me know if you want some more comprehensive help with understanding CSS, and I can point you in the right direction. But my knowledge also is limited, and based mainly on my experience editing various templates here. —Adam (talk) 19:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, i have no more pop up green words. But the userbox link is not helping me. I thing i don't understand is that when i click edit on your firefox userbox, there is a little bit of text in the whole code that reads "firefoxuser2" (with the double apostrophies) and i don't know what that does to the code. Please tell me why you inserted that. I will play around with the code to try to figure it out though. P.S. I can't seem to upload the new images. Can you do that for me? --David (T : C) 20:01, 18 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You're focusing on the wrong part - what's important is id= "firefoxuser2"
 * The text is secondary. The id tag tells you that this is the unique identifier for the element within which it is contained (in this case everything in between {| |} )
 * Like I said, the key to really understanding it's purpose is to understand CSS, which is not easy. In short, it must be there for the template to work, and it must be something unique to that template. Hope this helps a little. —Adam (talk) 20:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, i guess it helps. I just don't see what it does, since i removed it and hit show preview, yet nothing changed. I guess it's because i'm 12 and you're 25. :) --David (T : C) 20:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Can you update my images for me? I can't seem to upload the new images. --David (T : C) 23:33, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you :) --David (T : C) 12:25, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

gotta change
Hey I wanted to change something about this page http://zeldawiki.org/Seal_War because it seems like its more of an ocarina based theory of what happened during the seal war. I just think there should be a separate article only talking about the seal war as it is mentioned in the manual of ALttP and any other references...while also adding some speculation but not so much as this page already has....the problem is its already such a big page and has another thing redirected to it so I dont know how to change it but I only wanted to change it to Ocarina Seal War theory or something...maybe have a link to it in the new seal war page that should be made or just shorten it and add it to the new one at least. I mean must we read the entire ocarina story just for the seal war which we still hardly know about? anyways I just was asking you cuz I dont know exactly how to go about doing that, what do you think?


 * The page you're asking about (Imprisoning War) is quite problematic. It was written in its entirety by a somewhat persistent user who has provoked controvery with his previous edits. In essence, the page is good. However, it's in my opinion it's far too long and treats the subject in too much depth, including too much ancillary material. Also, as you've pointed out it mentions only one telling of the tale. Furthermore, it cites no sources. I don't know what the solution is; it's not a viable permanent solution to have two pages on the "same" topic as you've suggested. These would need to be merged. However neither is it practical to integrate additional info into such a gargantuan article. I think that the general discussion here needs to be continued in order to reach a conclusion. Also, please could you sign your posts on talk pages? For help, check the message I left on your talk page ;) —Adam (talk) 19:48, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Well
I guess you could say that Template:noclog was a good idea! it got rid of many unneeded wanted pages! --David (T : C) 13:10, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I considered doing that a while back, but then I got lazy, and then I forgot ;) —Adam (talk) 13:34, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem. And just literally a second ago, i found this. I suggest all of us who want to communicate quickly use it. When you install it, try going to moznet then type /join #Zeldawiki. Since it's a free chat program, we can use our usernames as nicknames, considering nobody has it, and talk in real time. --David (T : C) 13:46, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I have been looking at it, and apparently, I can give operator status on it. I'll give all sysops and bureaucrats operator status. But if I'm going to give you guys control, can i please keep operator status? --David (T : C) 14:13, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Ads
Well, I thought I'd come to a sysop (or however you spell the word) with this question: Recently (as recently as last night), green hyperlinks have begun popping up throughout the Wiki, and when my mouse glides over these, an ad pops up, trying to advertise something. Why, even as I'm editing there's one sitting just underneath this window. My question is, why are they here? Apart from the obvious reason of advertising Yuvorias, 22:14, 20 April 2008 (EST)

I think they might be here to help Jason make a profit on this site in case anything bad happens since you never know. Look here for a news article and go here for the website to turn them off. (Hint:go on the tab that says "disable ads") --David (T : C) 12:31, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Hey hey, thanks for that. :) Yuvorias, 22:41, 20 April 2008 (EST)

Zelda Universe
Are you member on Zelda Universe? Heres my profile


 * Nope, I never got around to signing up... —Adam (talk) 17:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

You should, its really easy:) Oh, and can you help us get ready(you know...on IRC? shhhhhh) --David (T : C) 18:10, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, just wondering, if you would like to get an account set up, i'll help 'cause, well....i'm pretty bored :P. So if you need the help, just meet me on the chatroom. --Seablue254 19:26, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

Little Help
Can I get an opinion/deletion on It's explicit and obscene. --David (T : C) 15:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Ando deleted it. It's rather nice to see that someone other than me who dislikes images like that. --Link hero of light 18:31, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Really sorry, I only just got in from a 9½ hour day at work. Life can be such an inconvenience. I agree that that image needed to be removed, unlike some others. I'll try and be more prompt in censoring the wiki to your liking in future. —Adam (talk) 18:36, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Oh, it's no problem, we understand you have a life like the rest of us, that's why the wiki has more then 1 sysop! Anyway, out of curiosity, what's your job? --David (T : C) 18:41, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I work for an IT Services firm, supporting business clients in the UK, Spain and Italy. —Adam (talk) 18:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Sounds important! :) --David (T : C) 18:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Not really; at the moment i'm configuring and installing PCs for a company that manufactures ball bearings! —Adam (talk) 18:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Those companies have pc's?! Aren't they like, super poor? Who buys ball bearings?! --David (T : C) 18:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh, you'd be surprised! It's a large Japanese-owned multinational firm that makes surprisingly expensive bearings for vehicles and machinery... all quite dull ;P —Adam (talk) 18:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

wow. I have just unlocked another part of the boring items in my brain o.O --David (T : C) 20:01, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

thanks for fixing the block. --David (T : C) 20:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Youtube
I found the Intro of Minish cap on youtube and screenshot it and fixed it in photoshop..so I didnt think I should put youtube?? should I have? --Remo 18:13, 22 April 2008 (UTC)


 * In that case, you'll just need to add to them, which shows that you captured and edited them yourself. —Adam (talk) 18:16, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Noclog
Ah, I understand. It's fine, I understand now. I'll be sure to put this to the proper use now. --Yuvorias

Notice
Hey, just to let you know, this weekend is completely gone for me; I'm attending an event, and I'll be gone from Friday through Sunday. So... expect your normal workload to be back. :P --Ando (T) 21:09, 24 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem, I'll be around :) —Adam (talk) 21:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Pidgin
I suggest downloading it, it's awesome! However, i can't seem to be able to change the topic nor does it have pics for every type of op. Nate may be able to help. --Seablue254 01:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

I still can't get MSN messenger to work. However, I have found ICQ. It works with AIM. --Seablue254 15:00, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...
Hey Adam. I'm new and my first edit was in The Carnival of Time and I just want to thank you for improving a few of my, let's say, newbie shortcomings and grammar. Well that's what the wiki's for, and it's great to be part of such a great team.

Have a great night...

Mel

Dare I?
I was wanting to get some feedback from the questions I left at http://zeldawiki.org/Talk:Kaepora_Gaebora I don't want anger the community by deleting the Rauru reference, but imo it shouldn't be there.Axiomist 16:48, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm not Adam, but still, remember this is a wiki. You are free to make edits as you wish. If the community dosen't like it, they will undo your edit. It really only takes one click. So theres really no way you can hurt the community. Fell free to wait for Adam's opinion, but go ahead and edit :) --Seablue254 16:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok, I was worried. I'll do some productive stuff first tho.Axiomist 17:08, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

No problem --Seablue254 17:10, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Axiomist, you're probably right. It was a pretty tenuous theory, and better that it be removed since it cannot be verified. Depending upon which "timeline theory" is adhered to, it could be argued (equally vaguely) that he is the reincarnation of Sahasralah, since their names are almost kinda similar-ish ;p
 * Anywho, just a tip in relation to the link you made above. There's no need to use full html links for any page at the wiki (or at wikipedia, for that matter). Simply take the title from the top of the required page, enclose within and you have an interwiki link. In the case above, this would be Talk:Kaepora Gaebora. You can also "pipe" the link, allowing it to be renamed but still point to the same place. This would be some random text . --Adam 18:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Reply
Hi Adam, I just thought I'd let you know I got your message, and have replied on my talk Page. So thanks for that. I couldn't help but notice on your user page, that you're stuck on MQ's Water Temple. It is hard.. but if you want to skip it in just a few minutes here's my advice. After you've meet Ruto, get the water up to the half way level, then sink under water and go back to the rooms Ruto was in. Float up to the platfrom, and bomb the wall. Use the hookshop to shoot a pattern on the back wall (Use Navi), and a chest will appear with the Longshot. Now raise the water to the top, and longshot over to the platform leading to the boss chamber. Once in the room with the hill, and metal things, use the longshot to hit a switch above the door. Then longshot onto the pole that appears atop the hill. With your sword drawn, side jump off the pole, and press B and forward, and you should get through the door, without the boss key. It may take a few tries. Then just defeat Morpha, and the temple is finished, with the Longshot needed for later. I told you I knew my glitches... :-).

Regards,

Melchizedek


 * Nice tip, thanks! I dislike the Water Temple anyway, and the MQ version just seems unnecessarily over-complex! It must be at least 6 months now since I got frustrated and shelved the game - maybe I'll revisit it sometime soon - I just seem to have almost no free game-playing time any more (probably down to the time I spend here ;) You may have gathered that I'm a bit of a defeatist - I've lost track of the number of games (Zelda- or otherwise) that I've completed to like 95%, then saved before the final boss fight, never to be completed! I guess I must be final-boss-phobic... Adam 19:24, 29 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem with the tip. Anytime. I can see where you're coming from. I was playing WW last night, and well, it doesn't seem to 'thrill' me anymore. Once you've played them, Wiki and ZU is the way to go. I, like you do, quit Majora's mask a few times, and it probably took me over a year to actually finish, unlike WW, which took a week. Regards, --Melchizedek 22:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry 'bout that image thing! My bad! --Seablue254 22:06, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Mozilla Firefox
Hi Adam. Just curious after reading this you typed. "Or use a better browser, like the fox!"

- Adam

I'm using internet Explorer 7.something, but my computer does have Firefox installed, as I had to use that once while Internet explorer was being fixed. I can say I honestly like Mozilla's layout, but do you know the actual differences? What advantages and downsides are there to firefox? I'm considering a browser change!... --Melchizedek 05:32, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, you'll find plenty of stats and figures here, but in a nutshell it's just plain better! I was like you once (and the rest of the world), plodding along with IE just because it was there, but then it got screwed up and I needed a substitute. Firefox was it, and I never went back! It has features I never knew I needed, and now couldn't possibly be without; fully customizable tabbed browsing with shortcut keys (saves me countless hours when I'm patrolling edits here), an infinite number of user-created ease of use "add-in"s, the list goes on. And downsides, I've found only one. There is one (count it, 1!) site on the whole internet that I need to use, which doesn't yet support firefox! And there's an add-in for firefox to emulate IE anyway! In short, it will seem strange at first, but give it a try (make sure you upgrade to the latest version), I'm convinced you'll find something you like :) --Adam 06:20, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I downloaded the latest Firefox, and am experimening with it, and giving it a trial run. I like it. More personalised, customised. Has a lot more than IE and the best of all, automatic spell check, which is great, especially for the wiki. It's cool... Thanks for this, and if there's anything else funky about it that you want to tell me, feel free. It's my default browser now, so yeah... --Melchizedek 11:47, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey, i'm not Adam, but i an still a Firefox user. anyway, since Mozilla has add-ons, here are some Adam showed me that i like :


 * Tab Mix Plus
 * Snap Links
 * Tabs Menu
 * Undo Closed Tabs Button

Also, thaere are other things that i use, like forecastfox and the themes (yes firefox has themes) like Zune Firefox and Safari fox. Hell, if you're accustumed to IE's layout, theres an IE theme, too! --Seablue254 19:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Whoah. Firefox is way better than IE. I'll be sure to add those add ons when I get some time, and definately choose a better theme...Thanks for those Links Seablue254... Regards --Melchizedek 21:17, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Nick
Have you noticed that Jase has taken out the nickname box to put in the IRC Nick and now all of our nicknames have gone? --Seablue254 20:37, 30 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yup, I mentioned it a few days ago on the staff boards. Jason's aware and I expect it'll be resolved before too long. --Adam 20:46, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Ok thanks :) --Seablue254 21:08, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Glitch Pages
Hi Adam, I left a response, regarding the glitch pages we were discussing here, which it'd be great if you could respond to. Regards, --Melchizedek 07:51, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Archiving Talk Pages
Thanks for the advice, and yes I would like some help knowing how to do it (That's archiving my talk page.) Is it simply making a new page, or is their some trick Link to it? Thanks for your help. --Melchizedek 21:17, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey. I'm not Adam, but i still believe i know how to answer your question. First let me do this.....(Thanks, Ando)
 * SEABLUE254'S HOW TO MAKE ARCHIVES FOR TALK PAGES ON THE DANG WIKI 101 !!
 * 1. Make a link to "User talk:Yourname/Archive description" where yourname=your username and description=a descriptionj of the archive (ex:1, Q1)
 * 2. Copy your current talk page or part of your talk page to it.
 * 3. Go to your current talk page and delete whatever you copied.
 * 4. Leave a link at the top of your current talk page to get to it.
 * 5. That should do it!
 * And, you have an archive! --Seablue254 22:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that Seablue254, you're a good friend! So it's just like creating a new page...I want to keep my user talk tidy, but as Adam has said, it does seem a bit rude deleting it. So thanks again. Regards, --Melchizedek 07:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah....i have a question on archiving talk pages. I see on your archived talk pages, at the top it has a link to your page. I open up the edit tab, and i see this div tag with the HTML attributes you told me about before. Question=How does it say that, but there is no text in the whole div tag that says "Talk page:Adam". P.S. Please don't get mad at me! --Seablue254 19:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Erm, the  bit only does the formatting (size, position, colour etc). The link is in the normal text below: current talk page --Adam 20:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Err, i wasn't talking about the box below it with all the text. I was talking about at the very, very top where in small letters, it says  User :::Talk:Adam . I was talking about the div tag, because when i get rid of it on your talk page, teensy-tiny piece of text at the top of the page is gone. If you still cannot see what im telling you, i can supply a picture. --Seablue254 20:22, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, now I see what you're talking about. It's nothing to do with the page contents (see Jason's archive for evidence of this). It goes away because you're editing the page, and it doesn't appear in preview. And it shows up automatically on any user talk subpage. Looks like the mediawiki software recognises that, despite the normal rule stating that "User:Adam/Archive 3" would be the main page, this is incorrect, and references instead the correct subject og the talkpage instead in this format. Clever, huh? --Adam 20:40, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that is pretty clever! I thought that was you because your pretty good at computers! But, however, i am still wondering what the id= stuff does to anything. Please don't be mad!!!! --Seablue254 20:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * It doesn't have any explicit or visible function, it's really there for convenience. DIV is basically used to break pages into segments of different styles. You can imaginge that having dozens or hundreds of    all over the place would make things pretty hard to read. So they can be given a unique ID to help identify them (see this for more info.)


 * The reason why it's there in my talk archive is because I took the code from the template used on Angela Beesley's page. This template seems to have been originally copied from here, where it was clearly originally created using a modified version of the stub template. Interesting, but irrelevant! In short, the "div id" has little purpose here at ZW because it's very rare that multiple divs will be used on one page, given that everything normally uses either templates or wiki syntax. --Adam 21:05, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * So if i open up a find box and typedin id="p" it wouldfind it? --Seablue254 21:28, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Yup. Hit Ctrl+U and you can see an example of how they're used ;) --Adam 21:42, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * No offence, Adam, but that was the answer I was looking for! All i wanted to know is what it's good for, and that's an answer! Give that man 10 points! --Seablue254 23:12, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Now i have a question about class on your archives. Not that i'm wondering what it does, i now know that ;), but why is it called "boilerplate metadata"? --Seablue254 12:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * This will explain in much more detail than I could hope to ;) --Adam 12:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Ah. So the boilerplate means that it is finishing the talk page. And metadata means.......that it keeps going? --Seablue254 12:29, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Metadata --Adam 12:33, 3 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Slaps hand to face Duh. --Seablue254 12:35, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
I just caught Roofroof vandalizing the page Valoo. I think a block is in order. Care to do the honors?--Matt 01:03, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


 * (I'm, uh, not Adam... but I can still say stuff, yeah?) I was tempted to hit the Block button myself, but I think I'll give him one more chance. After all, he vandalized only a single page. Maybe the fact that we have people here that revert vandalism really before anyone can see it will cause him to second-guess doing it. But one more strike and he's out, at least by my book. --Ando (T) 03:16, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Merged Article Talk Pages
There are few redirects with talk pages that only have the noclog template. These are remnants of the merging process. I don't think that these talk pages are nessisary after the articles are merged. Do you think we should delete the ones for the redirect pages?--Matt 19:08, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The left-over talk pages certainly could be deleted, but there's no real need. Nothing usually links to them, they don't take up a great deal of space, and deleting them seems like unnecessary extra work. If you're really worried about them, I guess you could redirect them to the new talk page? --Adam 19:27, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I guess we could remove the templates and leave the pages.--Matt 19:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Ack sorry
Ya I keep forgetting your right I'll try to sign em from now on.


 * Yeah, 'cept you just did it again!  ;) --Adam 17:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey! Just wanted you to know, we got UB2R-B0T on #zeldawiki! Come see him, just enter the chatroom! Also, if you don't know what he is, it might be a good idea to enter, too. --Seablue254 00:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Reverting many many edits
So is there this magical "revert a whole bunch of edits at once" button that I'm missing or are you just editing an older revision and adding the "Reverted edits by [blank]" text yourself? Still can't believe he comes in here and starts screwing with the Sheik article one minute after I leave. Everyone waits for me to leave to start having fun. Jerks. --Ando 19:28, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

(I'm not Adam, but close enough ;)) Ok, the revert text magically comes there when: This means that you "reverted" the edit to an earlier point in time. As for a button, considering I'm not a sysop, I can't help you there. And, yup. There are sysop hating jerks out there, i'm afraid. --Seablue254 19:36, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) You open up an old edit
 * 2) You click "Edit page"
 * 3) And you hit save


 * Well, it's sorta "magic-ish"... First, just view the most recent change, or a bunch of changes from the history/advanced recent changes which ends with the Current Revision. Then, if you use the "rollback" button it'll undo every change by that user and revert back to the last version before they edited it, automatically patrolling all the intervening edits at the same time. So potentially some vandal could make 467 edits to one article over a period of several hours, which you can then instantly revert with one click ;) --Adam 19:46, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * HAHAHA. Oh man. That's awesome. I just used the rollback button to see what it did, but I only did it with one edit. Your explanation explains when it would actually be useful. So cool, man. Thanks. --Ando 19:49, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of an Image
Would either you or another sysop please delete this image (File: Halp-i-not-cheezburger.jpg). That image is just not appropriate to be on this site. The user that uploaded it vandalized several articles on the same day. He was also blocked indefinitely on that day too.--Matt 23:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)


 * You've already added the delete tag. That's perfectly sufficient. At some point one of us will clear all the content to be deleted from that category; I don't see it as an urgent delete request. --Adam 17:09, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I see Ando's now taken care of this. --Adam 11:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Firefox
Well, I'm switching to Firefox. Do you have any suggestions as to what add-ons to use or anything? Internet Explorer is mostly crap. And that is as mild as it can be said.--Matt 23:36, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, I had to switch just to post anything at all. All of a sudden, about an hour ago, I started getting redirected to some stupid advertising page whenever I clicked "Save Page." On this site! I then said to myself, "Enough of this crap. I'm switching over!" So there you are. Now I see how you are able to catch so many spelling errors. Cheaters... Oh, I guess I'm one now too.--Matt 23:42, 15 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Glad to hear you've made the switch - until you do it, you never really know what you're missing out on! It's a shame that it usually takes until people get completely frustrated with IE before they even think about switching - I was the same! For add-ons, I suggest these as the most useful and relevant to the requirements of wiki-ing (is that a word?) --Adam 11:35, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. The undo closed tabs add-on, does it require the beta version? I'm using version 2.0.0.14 now. I don't know if you already have them, but I found some add-ons I think are useful: I guess I should change my userpage.--Matt 15:23, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * History Submenus
 * 404 : Page is Not Found ? Now it will be!


 * The anti-404 add-on I like. The other seems to be the same as my History is now anyway? Plus I don't actually use the history anyways. Also, you have the same Firefox version as me, so all my extensions should work for you. --Adam 18:22, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I have discovered a problem in Firefox that Internet Explorer lacks. The program is rather poor at handling memory. It tries to store as much as it can in the RAM. This leads to frequent lock-ups. It should have no reason to store 300 MB + in the RAM for just normal browsing -- no games, videos, or major animations. But it does.--Matt 09:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Oops, clicked the wrong button! Anyway, yeah, it's a known issue. A simple fix is here, you need to type about:config in the address bar and adjust the value of browser.cache.disk.capacity to suit your system. There's another tip here too. That's the great thing about an open-source browser - it really is fully user-configurable ;) --Adam 10:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

You would think that they would program out a "rather large and embarrassing" problem like that. That is a very big thing to leave unfixed. I thought Microsoft was the main company to not care about the quality of its products.--Matt 10:49, 17 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Mat, you are correct. and I cannot stop coming back to Vista fr these problems. For all of yoY thAt haven't tried Vista yet, *ahem* VISTA IS A SICK JOKE CREATED BY ANOTHER SICK JOKE, KNOWN AS MICROSOFT.Now, i have another example. Ready? *sigh* MSN Messenger won't let me log on. So now, i can't talk to all of you yahoo messenger and MSN messenger people because i "can't have my contact list available." Bull---t. Let's all start looking and Mac's and Linux and Ubuntu together. Next, Mozilla may have left out a big problem,but you gotta remember, they have many things to work on, and since it's open source software, it maybe possible that some like the way it was built. --Seablue254 11:14, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey
Hey! It seems that there are many un-credited images on this wiki! Care to join me? Maybe we could have a chat in the chatroom as we work. what do you think? --Seablue254 19:16, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

Have you noticed Gnug, ZU, and ZW have been down? --Seablue254 14:49, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I guessed it was something to do with Jason updating ZU, since both ZW and the satff boards were both down at the same time as ZU itself, and they're all hosted in the same place. Probably nothing to worry about - you weren't here a year ago, when the site used to go down on an almost monthly basis! --Adam 14:52, 1 June 2008 (UTC)


 * They were down most of the night. I think from about 12:30 AM to around 6:00AM — that's my time. I'm in the American Midwest, so I'm five hours behind London, England. The error message that was up a few minutes ago said "user.psp." I assume that that was for ZU. Do we dare hope that Jason will get around to the nicknames here? It actually a very simple thing to fix. He must have had the nickname box selected when he was typing in the IRC nickname box and didn't notice. He seems to have busy a lot lately though. Does anyone know if he is fully aware of the nickname box problem? Or that he still remembers? If he does, then it should not be too long from now.—Matt 15:16, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

I be gone
So, uh, next week (June 8th through the 14th) I'll be at Scout camp... Meaning you'll have to man the fort in my absence. Just letting you know so you're not all "wtf why didnt ando patrol this crap!!" --Ando 18:39, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * This is why we should get a couple new sysops. With four active sysops, (Adam, Ando, and two more) This sort of thing won't be an issue. Am I asking for a good word? Not exactly. I know could handle the job. But I'm not going to beg for it. That is not a good example to set for the others. So, Adam, you'll have quite a week of patrolling edits on your own. Ando, have good time at camp.--Matt 18:50, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Err.....Matt? We only have 2 active sysops. Ando and Adam. The other two have been gone for a while. Anyway, I can handle it too, (I'm actually hoping I get it, it would be the first important web thing to happen to me for a while), but, as usual, we have to have a need. Hopefully, everyone will hear this, the sysops and bureaucrats will nominate some people, and we will get some more. (Note: I have summer break in about 2 weeks, and I can take the job!) --Seablue254 19:01, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what I said. I'll clarify, "Adam, Ando, and two new ones". I'll have almost nothing to do this summer. And in college, I should have many openings to patrol every day. I'm just saying that I'm qualified for the job. I'm not begging here.--Matt 19:05, 6 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Heh. Maybe we could be the 2 new ones. I wish. --Seablue254 19:09, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I second that! You two are great helpers on here. (Does this help you guys become sysops at all? = I'm just a fan...(walks away)


 * Heh! It might. I guess that showing the sysops that they think we may be right for the job could help us :) --Seablue254 00:12, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Archive Templates
As you might have noticed, I have been able to make the first archive template to work anywhere. If might have a few more bugs, but it works everywhere it is now. The second and third archive templates are no longer necessary and should be deleted.--Matt 18:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Done, thanks. --Adam 18:55, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Quick response. Thanks. I knew that these conditional statements would come in handy.--Matt 19:01, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

New Featured Article
I just thought I'd catch your attention when you got here. The article Midna now has 10 votes, enough to be featured. Looks like Toon Link already took care of some of the work. I'm just letting you know so you can get to work on the rest. If I put this on your talk page you'll find out as soon as you get to the site.--Matt 04:13, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Google Talk
I believe you have one. I'm seablue254 there as well. --Seablue254 20:28, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

And your is? --Seablue254 21:30, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Hyrule Castle
why did ya change my edit of Hyrule castle? it was correct and didnt degrade the site or game in any way.

It wasn't exactly relevant. It should go in a trivia section. I'll see what I can do.--Matt 20:12, 14 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Iy wasn't just that. From the limited visual info I was able to find on the mentioned building, nothing struck me as immediately (or even vaguely) similar to Hyrule Castle. To me, it seems like another case of a problem we've seen too often here; tenuous cross-series references with little relevance or grounding in fact (e.g. "Zant looks a lot like Lord Voldemort" - ok, so I'm paraphrasing, but we pretty much had that written once!) I just don't see it as appropriate, relevant or even correct, so even if it was re-added under a theory or trivia header, I'd flag it as "citation needed" and remove it again when none was given. Sorry if that seems harsh, but that's my reason - for the good of the wiki. --Adam 05:59, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Captcha help
Is there any way we can remove the Captcha help link that appears when saving a page after adding an external link? The pages content is hardly relevant to this wiki's methods on this matter. More importantly, in is extremely easy to accidentally hit. When you click save page after adding an external link, the box appears, you try to click on the box, and the browser resizes the page -- because it still wasn't done loading -- and the Captcha help link is clicked instead. I always maximize the window and my resolution is 1024x768. That's about the most common resolution. Firefox stores POST data but Internet Explorer does not. It is rather annoying. I think I remember the top template(?) for editing a talk page being edited a few weeks ago. Can this be done?--Matt 02:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll show you what I mean. Captcha help example.png You can see in the image what I am talking about. The page is still loading and you click the box to enter the answer to the math problem, and the toolbar finishes loading and your click instead goes to "more info" (Captcha help) link I have a very common resolution. Would it be at all possible to move link to an earlier part of this sentence or to remove it? It is getting annoying.--Matt 12:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Featured Content Disqualification
Might I suggest that you let back on the enthusiasm for disqualifying content? At this rate we'll have no featured content left! I suggest imposing a limit of one disqualified picture and one disqualified article per month. This way more votes can be added either way rather than it being decided at sysop's discretion.--Matt 18:59, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think you're looking at this the wrong way. There's no need for any limit on when articles are disqualified. It's literally essential that content be removed, otherwise the featured content voting process would have to be stopped entirely. If you check here:


 * Zelda Wiki:Featured Picture schedule
 * Zelda Wiki:Featured Article schedule
 * you'll see that we currently have the maximum possible amount of featured content in rotation. It was agreed among all the staff that the system should remain as it is, at least for the time being. That being the case, in order for something new to be featured, something old MUST be taken out. Or add more days to the year, your choice ;) Plus, nothing is removed before there's something to take it's place, so it's not possible to have too little featured content due to my "enthusiasm". An article could get literally hundreds of votes calling for it's disqualification, but until something new got 10 votes to be featured, it would stay where it is. The page exists simply so that, when it's time for something to be removed, we know what it should be (i.e. whichever has the most votes, hence why I'm encouraging everyone to vote - if nobody votes, then it becomes exactly the arbitrary decision you mentioned above!). --Adam 20:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I hate to be blunt, but, yes we do have more space for featured content. Enough for twice as much actually. Right now it changes every two days. Just start making them change every day. Wikipedia has over a thousand featured articles. They don't seem to be bothered by that. Even if we would have to manually change the schedule each month (which is really not that difficult), all the featured content is listed anyway. Featured articles are marked to be featured. If you claim you don't want to do things this way because it is too much work, then just think how much work it is to constantly ask for disqualifying vote. You keep asking for disqualifying votes, why not keep votes. If you meant those as well then make that clear. You sound like your trying to influence the votes. It is not good for this site's image if half of its featured content is disqualified. If we need to set up a script that will change the content every day of the year instead of every day of the month then just say so. I'll make it. I know how. We can have the content loop. I can change every one or two days. Once the end is reached I'll just start the list over again. For me, this would not be that difficult to do.--Matt 20:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm working on the script right now. It's looking very promising. The initial bits might take an hour or two. After that, it will be much easier.--Matt 21:02, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. Now that wasn't so hard was it? We now can have 167 new featured articles/pictures ,if it changes every two days. No more disqualifying just to make room!--Matt 21:33, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * :o . Did that just happen? Feel free to ban me for offensiveness, i have no choice, but I think that you just lost the game, Adam! --Seablue254 21:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I wasn't aware we were playing any game, I was just explaining a situation which wasn't previously public knowledge. Both Jason and Mases previously suggested to me that we remove older/poorer articles from the rotation. I agreed, on the basis that much of our current featured content was voted for without the possibility of opposition votes, therefore meaning that it would almost inevitably become featured eventually, regardless of its merits or lack thereof. It was a simple quality control measure; the factor of making room was a secondary, logistical issue. I know wikipedia has thousands of featured articles, but they have 2.5 million to choose from. We have . I'd say it's all about percentages. The new templates look very impressive, but I have no idea what they actually do or how they would be used, modified or adapted. --Adam 22:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

I believe that what the "new templates" accomplish is it has a different article for every day of every week. So if it's the fifth week of the year, it pulls out the fifth week's daily articles. I see one major issue with this template, and that's the fact that we don't have 167 featured articles! There would be too many empty gaps in the rotation, especially given that out of our articles, maybe 20 are truly featured article quality right now. There's no possible way we could really fill that gap. The only way I could really see being able to have more featured articles / pictures is by having a new one featured weekly (thereby allowing 52 articles / pictures a year), but that might cause the front page to get a little stale. Outside of that (or even shortening featured content display times to one day per article / picture, but that would require us to have 31 featured contents...) I see no way of resolving this beyond our current procedures. --Ando 22:44, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't say to stop the voting for disqualifying content, I said that disqualifying content to make room for new content is no longer required anymore. The templates first decides which week of the year it currently is. Then it decides which day of the week it is. From this, a featured article/picture is chosen. It each week flows onto another week. That is, the featured content loops. To modify you just change the numbers. But I'll be happy to make any modifications myself. This gives us room for 167 featured articles/pictures, that's 182 counting what we already have. All you do to use the templates is type either or  on the page. Right now there are no gaps. The cycle loops. If new content is added, then I'll just modify the template to have this one in and change all the loops. For me, that's child's play.--Matt 22:49, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't see us using up the 167 more spots anytime soon.--Matt 22:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Matt, i agree wholeheartedly. --Seablue254 00:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

I know we're still trying to figure out what to do here. So I suggest to not disqualify anything and to not make anything featured for the time being. Just until we can decide what we should go with. Either way, it would be a good choice to keep the disqualifying voting going. I was thinking about this yesterday. So I went to the Master Sword article. I took a long look at it. I said to myself, "Why was the only opposition vote from someone who didn't understand the page. There are real problems here! There are almost no sources and there are a few inaccuracies." So I set about fixing the page. Now the article is up to featured quality. We were too quick to vote it in. If we go with my system, then we might work the disqualifying slightly differently So far the only disqualified articles are generics that were beyond saving. If an article nominated for disqualification has a fixable problem, and the problem is then fixed. the disqualification nomination is then null and void. This has happened once already. The Link article was nominated to be disqualified. After a time I found the exact problems and fixed them. The complaints about the Link article for disqualification are no longer valid. Therefore that nomination should be canceled. How about we give this new system of mine a test-run? We'll never know unless we try. We can always change it back later.--Matt 07:10, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, my last change to the scripts (besides the instructions) wasn't really necessary, but I thought, "Why not?". We're all set to use them. I'm sure you guys know how these templates work now right? There are no empty days on the script. We actually have extra days in the script (53x7=371). The 53rd week is the last day of the year (or two days on leap years). So we'll never see those last days used. I just filled them in so than there were no blank fields. Here's our articles limit: 365/2=182.5. 182-15=167. There you are. A cap this big just means that we don't have to worry about running out of room for featured content anytime soon. It is all ready to go. It is your turn now!--Matt 07:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

The Game

 * Because keeping it in the above section just seemed silly!

Adam, to lose the game is to mess up badly. In fact the game has rules. Because i mentioned it, everyone who just read that is playing it. You can't win, only lose. Everytime you remember The Game you lose it. So i effectively had you play the game and lose it. The reason i did that is because you just got beaten by Matt. Don'y be mad, Matt lost too. I mentioned it, he started playing, and he lost. If any of this confuses you, you can also ask Ando, he's playing it and knows the rules. (Note: YA'LL JUST LOST THE GAME! *SLAPS KNEE*)--Seablue254 00:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * That's... not how you play. Basically, everyone is playing the game. Always. But if you think about the game, you lose. So as long as you're not thinking about the game, you're winning. So "You Lost The Game" is the ultimate way to annoy anyone who knows what you're talking about. I can't find the original web site, but it's around these internets somewhere.
 * Sorry for clogging up your talk page with this, Adam, I just felt that it had to be said. :P --Ando 00:49, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * All I was thinking about was how bad it would looked to have a ton of disqualified pages and only fifteen featured. It would have been very bad for the Wiki. I'm not really following what you two are saying. So I'll just roll my eyes a few times and go work on something else tonight. My fingers do hurt a little from making those templates.^_^--Matt 00:58, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

The Game is something totally un-related, Matt, don't worry. I really have no idea how Seablue was using it. :/ It was started a few years back... Like I said, I can't find the web site (Googling "The Game" just gets me some movie or something by that name), but it's out there somewhere. --Ando 01:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


 * *Sigh* why do i always end up the bad guy? --Seablue254 14:37, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I see
I do. --Seablue254 21:09, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Hmmm. Cryptic, much? --Adam 21:22, 20 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Cryptic? Yes, i guess i do know about encryption ;) --Seablue254 21:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Images
Oh...no. What have i done. :Graveface:. Can you please fix those? I added these images to be used in the User windows, Linux, and Mac templates. Now, if you follow the instructions, a different image comes up for each value. Anyways, i really have no idea about the 2nd problm, so fix that if you need. Lastly, i'll get on GTalk right nao. —Seablue254 21:27, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Sigh. I can't get in because i forgot my pass, so forget it. The Chatroom can do it anyway. —Seablue254 21:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)