User talk:Wsjskr

Chinese in Template:Names
So glad to see your response!!

For your question, I will give some explanation.

Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese are the official language of Taiwan (ROC) and China (PRC). Nintendo wants to adjust both markets ，so it offering the Traditional and Simplified version (despite being in the same cassette, as "2in1" ). In the Taiwan version 3DS, insert the cassette running Traditional Chinese version. And the Chinese version 3DS, insert the cassette running Simplified Chinese version. In 1950s, Simplified Chinese is born. It is "some of very difficult characters" to be simplified, not all. In other words, some Chinese, Traditional Chinese & Simplified look the same, but some are different. But this is only the difference in "characters". Since their separation in China and Taiwan, although Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese are derived from Chinese, but as British English and American English, even though the same origin, but usage has been a lot different, not only shape, but also syntactically. For example.

Zelda - Simplified "塞尔达" traditional "薩爾達"   （Sai er da  & Sa er da）

Ganondorf - Simplified "盖侬多夫" Traditional "加農多夫"   （Gai nong duo fu  &  Jia nong duo fu）

Ocarina of Tme - Simplified "时光之笛" Traditional "時之笛"    （Shi guang zhi di  &  Shi zhi di）

Fairy - Simplified "精灵" Traditional "妖精"  （Jing ling   &   Yao jing）

Like these, very much.

But there are still some exceptions, such as ---

Link - Both "林克" （Lin ke）in two Chinese Ver, 'cause simplified and Traditional word is the same word. Overall, Traditional and Simplified, translation and text difference is about 50%, translating the same but text differ about 20%, the rest is the same between the two translations. Therefore recommended Zeldawiki, can specifically set up two kinds of Traditional Chinese and Simplified Chinese translation to prepare editing, and you want to take care of the players emotions, the national flag should set correctly.

These are some in Mariowiki:

http://www.mariowiki.com/Gadd

http://www.mariowiki.com/Goomba

in the end of the site,there is "Names in Other Languages".Like these.(These site are also edited by me,and it's a long and big project),the different of two Chinese ver. is just like this.

(In fact, Ocarina of Time, had another Chinese Ver., namely iQue Player (A localization of N64). It would be difficult to say it clearly in a few words about it. In short, the N64 version of the Simplified Chinese version is also authorized Nintendo games, not pirated games, but it is co-produced by the Nintendo iQue to Nintendo's first step in Chinese in 2003 .The difference is, 3DS's Traditional and Simplified Chinese version, produced by Nintendo. In both versions(iQue ver. and 3DS ver.), the same simplified Chinese do, but there are also many differences between translations. As iQue Player version is older, and is co-issued, usually we player think that 3DS version 's translation is more formal. If you can open wiki project Simplified Chinese, it is for the same thing in iQue Player version and the 3DS version 's different translations, it will be added. )

↑This is a rather complicated, I do not know whether you can make it clear, if you think you do not understand it, it does not matter, because “that” version of the translation is now rarely used. At last,Nintendo more and more need Korea, Taiwan and China ,and more and more games are released in these areas.These three language are new ,but important.Especially Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese, difficult for Westerners to understand their differences and connections, often mistaken for the same version.

I have to do is to let the Western mainstream gaming market players also know that The Legend of Zelda (and Mario and other games) have a Chinese version, and specifically for China and Taiwan produced two versions. Chinese players are not all pirated players, there are also enthusiastic about the game of genuine gamers.

We refer Zeldawiki many years, very grateful to have this platform, but as more and more Chinese games is released, wiki actually the only other language translations, particularly the most recent period, more and more Korean entry, leaving China players feel the heavy responsibility can no longer sit beside. The only obstacle is that there are no set two Chinese wiki, and mistakenly confused with the flag of Taiwan, so development has been hindered.

Reiterates its recommendation to have two kinds of SC and TC translation options, and are set to Chinese national flag and the flag of Taiwan, in order to organize the two players translation service in the world Zelda players!

Very very thanks and very very sorry for my poor English.

我是金属狂人 12:34, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi there! I noticed your post on Justin's talk page and I thought I'd help. Chin Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention. However, I do need to know something before I make changes. Do Traditional and Simplified Chinese have any characters in common? Would the Traditional and Simplified Chinese translations of names sometimes be the same? Or are they always different characters? (That may be a silly question. Please forgive my ignorance, I am a Westerner. :P)

Let me know and I will make the changes the template. You can respond to my message on this same page. Also please put four tildes ( ~ ) at the end of your posts to sign them. That way everyone can know who wrote the post and when. Thanks! :) 16:11, 30 September 2013 (UTC)


 * You said Traditional and Simplified versions are offered as a 2 in 1. Is it technically possible to play the Traditional version in the PRC (or the Simplified version in the ROC)? Also, is Zelda only available in Mandarin or is there Cantonese versions as well?


 * And don't worry about your English! It's good enough to get your point across. :) Your messages are very long, though! :P 11:41, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes, One game as 2 in 1.We can't play Traditional version in PRC 3DS ,nor CT Ver.in POC Ver. The version of the game can't be seleted by player,only by what the 3DS is. In game there is not an option to choose TC or SC,just depend on which version of 3DS.

Zelda does not have Cantonese versions. HK Ver.3ds play this game as the same as Taiwan(Trad.Chi).Mandarin? What's that? I just know that the text in Taiwan ver and China ver is different.one is like "Beijing Ver." , one is like "Taipei Ver."

我是金属狂人 12:53, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh,I know what is Mandarin...In China,goverment says"Simplified Chinese is my Mandarin",in Taiwan says "Traditional Chinese is my Mandarin"...Just a Political bickering.Indeed,they are all Chineses.You may understand it as" this is two dialects".

我是金属狂人 12:59, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the helpful information. Template:Names has been changed to include separate Traditional Chinese (chT) for Taiwan, Macau and Hong Kong; and Simplified Chinese (chS) for mainland China. The regular "ch" field can be used when both are the same.


 * This has been very informative! Thanks! :) 04:01, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. I am trying to do some Wiki, when I find if one thing's translation is in a table ,such as


 * esL1= Dodongo
 * esL2= Minidodongo


 * fr1= Dodongo
 * fr2= Dodongo Junior

When I edit that:


 * chS1= 多东哥
 * chS2= 多东哥宝宝

It can't be edited into the table.

Thank you to sovle this problem.

我是金属狂人 06:14, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Ah yes, forgot about that. I'll fix that right now.


 * Also, I noticed you sometimes make a lot of edits to the same page over a short time. Doing this puts a large strain on our server and clogs up the recent changes. So instead of saving a lot, use the "show preview" button next to the "save page" button. It'll allow you to view your edit for any mistakes so you don't have to make a lot of fixing edits or additional ones! :) 07:48, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Thank you,and I would consider that.


 * There's also Template:Chinese now if you ever feel like adding the Pīnyīn. For example:

(forgive me if the Pinyin is wrong :P)


 * Gives this:


 * It's fine if you don't use it, just letting you know that it exists! 09:29, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

OK, get it.

And I find another problem that I can't edit the "Release date" in the page's ↗.


 * chS= November 19, 2003, chS ,China,ch,or else,can't be screen in the wiki page.

Please help...Thx

我是金属狂人 13:03, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh,now I know why you say"Cantonese Chinese"and "Mandarin Chinese"before，because it is used in bulbapedia.

In Pokemon 's world ,China and Taiwan is almost the same,Hongkong is different from them.

But in Zelda's world ,Hongkong and Taiwan is the same, but China is different from them.

So in Zeldawiki, "Cantonese Chinese"and "Mandarin Chinese" is wrong.Instead Simplified Chinese and Traditional Chinese.

15:28, 17 October 2013 (UTC)


 * So what would you need exactly for Template:Release: one for PRC and one for ROC? Or one for Taiwan/Hong Kong and one for mainland China? 06:49, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

I thinke it would be chS(for China) and chT(for Taiwan\Hongkong\Macao etc.).Between China and Taiwan\HK\etc. ,the name, release date,Rating are different(but sometimes release date are the same).Between Taiwan,HK,Macao etc,all are 100% the same.

In wikipedia, it has China,Taiwan,Hongkong three release date.But Taiwan and Hk are 100% all the same ,so i think it can be delete the HK for short.

THX.

我是金属狂人 07:23, 18 October 2013 (UTC)


 * Alright, Template:Release now has "ch" for mainland China and "twsar" for Taiwan/Hong Kong/Macau. When adding release dates please cite your source whenever possible.


 * Thank you for all your work on the wiki so far. Doing research on the state of Zelda in China is difficult, so it's nice to have a helpful Chinese player around. :) 03:46, 19 October 2013 (UTC)