Template talk:Twilight Princess

For this collapsible table to work I need the help of a moderator of admin with access to the Monobook or CSS page that this wiki is using. Certain code needs to be added to the CSS for the table to collapse properly.

Read this link and follow what they say in the [Exporting table collapse code] section to find the code to be added. Knil 07:04, 27 February 2008 (EST)

Good, or bad?
I'm a little uneasy about this kind of template. On the plus side it looks ok, and contains some useful links. But it's very large and bulky, and a number of templates of this nature have previously been deleted for less... Even if the collapsible function were to be enabled, I think this would take up a lot of room on a great number of pages (since it should be included on each one mentioned). What are other people's views on this kind of thing? (for those without sysop rights to view deleted content, this is the kind of thing that's previously been deleted) —Adam (talk) 13:56, 27 February 2008 (EST)


 * "HOLY CRAP IT'S HUGE"
 * That was my first thought when I saw the template. Then as I looked closer at it, I realized that probably 70% of those links can be removed (do we really need separate links for EACH of the Goron elders in this?). But a lot of this template is still unnecessary after that. I mean, we already have a common enemy template, a games template, etc... Anyone who needs, say, a list of places in Twilight Princess can just click on the "Category:Places in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess" link. So I really don't think it's a necessary template. A nice idea, sure, but I'm not sure that it could be executed well at all. --Ando (Talk) 14:33, 27 February 2008 (EST)

When fully activated the template will only show the game title (which is shown at the top). When clicking the title the template will pop open showing all the relevant information within. Click again and it will collapse back down to size. Here's an example of it in action at the bottom of this character page:  It's mainly for user friendly stuff, making it easier to find information on the smaller topics (such as the minor characters, enemy lists for that game, etc). The larger topics like the main characters (Zelda, Link) can do without it. And yes Ando, each page that is related to the game will have a link in the relevant templates. Knil 17:10, 27 February 2008 (EST)


 * Only Jason has access to the wiki config, and I'd say it's highly unlikely that he'll be willing to make the required changes for the reason I've stated above. By all means ask him directly, his contact details can be found here. With this in mind, I've removed the template from active use. On a personal note, I dislike this kind of template on principle (they are too large to be either useful or user-friendly), and believe that only the smaller more specific type should be used. —Adam (talk) 15:55, 29 February 2008 (EST)

Erm. Says on his user page that Chaos has withdrawn from the community. Shouldn't you have a more active admin? Don't get me wrong, this place looks great but a lot more can be added. Not to mention the coding is way out-dated. There are codes active in other sites that would make writing pages a lot easier (say when you keep typing ' ' to make the thumbnails look more neat beside the text, instead you can use one '{-}' and it automatically does it). Also, I really don't see where you are coming from when you say that these tables will not be user friendly. Anything that simplfies a person's ability to navigate the site is useful. These tables do that extremely well. Plus have you even looked at the example site I've given you. Does the intitial appearance of the table look 'large and bulky' to you? I really don't understand where you are coming from in this. Knil 18:57, 29 February 2008 (EST)


 * The navigation templates already simplify a person's ability to navigate (hence "navigation templates" :P). If someone's looking at Link or Zant, there's already character templates to take them to other main characters or enemies, but those are small templates. And anyone that wants the Jaggle page (or any other minor character page) already knows what they want and can just use the search box rather than have a monster-sized template that they have to look through. --Ando (Talk) 19:58, 29 February 2008 (EST)


 * I don't know what user page you're reading but there's no way I'm inactive - in fact, I'm quite active. I believe I said that I once withdrew from the Zelda Universe community. I haven't updated that page in forever, but I actually returned to Zelda Universe, and furthermore purchased the website. So, I'm a little more active than you think. Just a little.


 * On topic: Sorry, but this thing is huge, and a collapsible table is ridiculous. I understand the concept, but nobody is going to flip through the table like that. And even when they do, they'll be lost in a sea of links... I've never seen such a bloated template. Furthermore, we don't need a template specifically for one game. The "search" function works just as well as anything - if people want to go somewhere, they can search for it. If they just want to browse out of boredom, they don't need this obscene template to do it. They can click the many links that already exist in the page they're viewing.


 * And now to rewrite my user page and bring it up to date. Man is that thing old. --Jase 21:25, 29 February 2008 (EST)

...Fine. I'll try pushing for this again at a later date. In the mean time I'll return to sorting out the numerous pages that are floating around here. Knil 22:28, 29 February 2008 (EST)