User talk:Pakkun/Archive 2

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What were you trying to say? Supermariosuperfan 20:05, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

WOW!
Pakkun, thanks for helping us out with the translation tables, especially on the Majora's Mask page. Grueling work, I bet, but it looks great! ;) 17:39, 13 November 2010 (EST)
 * Oh, yeah. Thanks. There's more to come, though. 01:59, 14 November 2010 (EST)

Translations
Hey Pakkun,

I've noticed you've taken interest in translation work around the wiki. It's something we both have in common. Right this moment I'm working on a translation project that covers every Oracle of Ages article (with Oracle of Seasons soon to follow). You can find the translation table in my Sandbox.

Admittedly, the difference between you and I is that you actually understand Hiragana and Katakana, whereas I just get by with text dumps and translators. And since I can't find any text dumps for the Oracle games, I have to rely on a FAQ, which is great but not always reliable. As such, I fear some of the information I submit might not be accurate 100% of the time. I was wondering if maybe you could help me out with this. I won't ask you to chase me around and fix my mistakes on my translation edits, but it'd be great if you could just look over my OoA project and tell me if you see anything out of order. And if you wanted to help out by adding some translations yourself, that would be great too!

It's just an idea I'm putting out there. If you aren't interested, I completely understand. By no means should you feel like you're obliged to do anything you don't want to.

If you are interested, great! I'd love to have you on board. I could sure use your help! 10:19, 14 November 2010 (EST)
 * With sprites as well? Pretty ambitious. Of course I'll help. Though, it might be best to talk over Skype, if you have it. 19:12, 14 November 2010 (EST)


 * Great! Your help will be much appreciated. Sadly, I do not have Skype and honestly don't have much interest in trying it. :P Feel free to spam my talk page though. In case you wanted to know, you can find the FAQ I'm using here. 16:40, 16 November 2010 (EST)

Adding Japanese Names
Just wanted to let you know that we have this new template for Japanese names now that's much more manageable than Exp.

Welcome back! 19:34, 21 June 2011 (EDT)


 * Ah, okay. I'll go back and fix them then. 19:42, 21 June 2011 (EDT)

Plural Links
Hello again, Pakkun. (By now, you're probably thinking: "Ugh, what does he want this time!")

Just dropping in to let you know that when making plural links, it's preferable to leave the "s" (or whatever else it may be) out of the link (instead of pipe-linking every plural link) since MediaWiki software is capable of absorbing the "s" into the link. So for example, to get "Rupees", it's preferable to write Rupees instead of Rupees. Minor adjustments like you made in this edit are unnecessary and even unwanted; all they do is clog up the text a little. :P I don't know if that's the first time you've done that or if you've been doing that for a while; if it's the latter, you don't need to go back and fix all of them. It's not that big a deal.

Besides that you're doing great. Your contributions are much appreciated! (Though I suppose you don't need me to tell you that!) Really, I don't know how you can do such repetitive work for so long... I find it really quite admirable, actually...

Anyways, that's it! I'm done bothering you... for now... 21:07, 27 July 2011 (EDT)
 * Oh, sorry. I'll refrain from now on. 21:26, 27 July 2011 (EDT)

Private Oasis
There must be a way to emphasise the fact that the island's name changes to reflect your character's name without breaking the "rules". Maybe by simply putting in brackets something like "the actual name depends on the name entered". If it simply says "It becomes Link's Oasis" then it's unclear, and doesn't convey the facts. As I say, there must be some way to word it so it's acceptable while not being misleading. Avengah 19:16, 6 September 2011 (EDT)

Developer quotes page
Hi. I wanted to make an edit in the timeline quotes page but I'm not an autoconfirmed user yet. This is what I wanted to add in the TP section: It should be noted that the part where Aonuma refers to how much time passed between Ocarina of Time and Twilight Princess might have been mistranslated, and that he probably spoke of.

I'd like to ask you to make the edit instead! Change it as you see fit of course. Zeldafan1982 16:09, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
 * Nice find! I'm not entirely sure how it should be handled, but I added it. 17:08, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
 * Thanks! :)

| Translating help
Could you possible search the Official Skyward Sword Site? The Japanese one that is. You're the only person on this wiki that I know of who could search for the information I need. Thanks in advance. Steahl 23:03, 12 November 2011 (EST)
 * Yeah, I've been doing that for a while. What do you need? 23:25, 12 November 2011 (EST)
 * Well as we both know the Japanese website has more information than the rest and almost all the references I get are from these websites. Knowing that they are so full of information it would be nice if the wiki could get access to some information that wouldn't otherwise be accessable to the western world for a little while. I would like it if you could check the locations, features, items et cetera if possible. Sorry that the link I gave you isn't working. Oh yeah and thank you :) Steahl 00:48, 13 November 2011 (EST)
 * Right... Well, the English site is basically just a translation of what can be found on the Japanese site, so I'll just work on the Thunderhead and new Skyloft information. I'm not sure how long it will take, considering there's 7 new bits of information. The English site may even update before I'm finished, but I'll do what I can. 01:29, 13 November 2011 (EST)
 * I've translated the Thunderhead information:
 * The cloud around Thunderhead is known as . The site just says it recently appeared near Skyloft and the thick clouds make it difficult to see.
 * The island of Thunderhead itself is, apparently known as ... Apparently, this is where Hylia ("The Goddess") "left", and it seems to be housing a secret. I'm really not certain about the Goddess bit, the Japanese text says "ここは、女神が遺したと言われる島. " but that's the best I can make of it.
 * Levias is a wise Sky Spirit (not too much of a departure from "Wind Fish") who watched over the skies since ancient times and is knowledgeable about everything ("like a walking dictionary").
 * Right now, I'm thinking Thunderhead just refers to the billowing clouds and the island is actually Poetry Island. 02:41, 13 November 2011 (EST)
 * And now, the Skyloft bit...
 * Pumpkin Island is an island near Skyloft that holds the Pumpkin Bar  where Birdriders can rest and buy Pumpkin Soup . (As a side note, the Pumpkin Bar resembles an actual pumpkin and a Piece of Heart rests on top of the chandelier inside and there's a stage where Link can play the Goddess Harp for its inhabitants. The island features a pumpkin patch.)
 * Gratitude ; basically, when Link grants people's wishes by helping them in sidequests, they give him "gratitude", which look like Star Bits. From what I gather, there's a sidequest where you're supposed to help tend to a woman's brown Loftwing. And, as already revealed in a video, you help clean a woman's house using the Gust Bellows.
 * Beedle's Shop ; It's an "airship" peddled by Beedle that floats over Skyloft. It contains merchandise that cannot be found in the Skyloft Bazaar. (Link gets the Bug Catching Net here.)
 * "Skyloft at Night" ; what it's saying is that Skyloft has different features and Link can sleep in his bed either day or night.
 * So there you go. I went ahead and put some of the information into the appropriate pages. 04:37, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Thanks dude, now we have the information that Japan, thanks to you :) Steahl 09:42, 13 November 2011 (EST)

Batreaux Alien article
I just noticed Batreaux appears on non-zelda games. That was true on that article. I know Men in Black is a non-zelda game but i'm sure that alien appears on those movies. I'm also sure hes been a demon and an alien for like 14 years. I wondered if you could look at this article on the Alien Species wiki here. It may tell you about him and his appearences.--Brandondorf9999 21:39, 14 November 2011 (EST)
 * I'm going to point out that I have read an interview where they discuss Batreaux and his conception. Upon further investigation, I had found nothing supporting your claim, and, only your weak source states that such a character exists. Furthermore, there was nothing about Mikey having a father, just that he was a fugitive alien. I have growing suspicions that it's only you purporting your ridiculous claim, especially considering your source is only 2 days old and frankly the writing style is all too similar to your own.
 * Back to the interview, Daiki Iwamoto is the one who designed him. If they did indeed take him from MIB, there would be a whole slew of red tape involving copyright disputes, and a cheap shoutout to an American movie in Japan would not be worth that. So, honestly, given that only one contentious source claims Mikey has a father named Batreaux, no, it's likely not from Men in Black.
 * Now, if I've missed something, feel free to correct me. 02:31, 15 November 2011 (EST)
 * How would you know Daiki Iwamoto desinged that alien?--Brandondorf9999 23:43, 15 November 2011 (EST)
 * I know that Iwamoto designed the demon because the official interview says so, of course. 00:21, 16 November 2011 (EST)

Patrol
Hello there, Pakkun. The staff have decided to promote you to the position of Patroller because of your consistent edits and great contributions to the wiki. As a patroller, you'll have to review other's edits and fix them if necessary. I know you've been doing this for a while already, but now you've got new tools to do this. If you want more information, you can check out this guide or ask one of the patrollers on their talk pages or on Skype. Keep up the good work :) 04:26, 20 November 2011 (EST)
 * Wow, thanks. I'll try not to squander it. 08:59, 20 November 2011 (EST)

Well Excuuuuse me.
I thought a talk page was where you can input theories and such to get analyzed by other. It's not MY fault it was my first time using one. And seriously, was it neccessary to be rude? Just because I'm new doesn't mean I don't have feelings.
 * I wasn't discriminating against you based on whether you were new or not, although I admit I didn't take well to your zeal, which was a fault on my part. As the notice itself stated, talk pages are for improving the article, rather than the subject itself and you were discussing whether or not Midna loved Link, so I added the off-topic notice. At the point she had said that quote, she hadn't undergone any character development, so I'm certain she was only being her snarky self.
 * Talk pages really aren't a place for theories of that sort, so that's why I added the off-topic template. I had analyzed and deemed your theory as "bogus" based on the context, so please don't think you were personally targeted. Well-received and commonly-accepted theories occasionally do end up on pages here, so if you would like to discuss that theory, I recommend sharing it first with any of the Masterminds' forums and see how it fares there. Frankly, I don't believe that your theory will go very far here though, particularly because it's based on their romance, which will forever be subjective because the developers have always (with one exception) shied from giving Link an entirely canon love interest. 22:26, 4 December 2011 (EST)
 * If I may, just wanted to say that you should take this as a learning experience, and in the future, please approach members of the staff with whom you disagree for clarification rather than being defensive. New or not, you can easily read our policies, and I don't think they are unclear. I hope to see you editing around Zelda Wiki a lot in the future - feel free to always ask questions if you are unsure! :) --Xizor 22:37, 4 December 2011 (EST)

Skyward Sword: Dowsing
Hello Pakkun

Regarding the Dowsing ability page for the Skyward Sword game. I made an entry and it was deleted because I needed to write in-universe. I don't care that it was deleted, I didn't write in universe and apparently that's a rule I broke, but I don't know what in-universe means.

What I *really* care about is if you could help me complete the Dowsing page so that other people can get the info. You see this is the best Zelda wiki I've seen, and I just want to help people & spread the info. I don't even care about credit (hell, I found this info from elsewhere to begin with) but I just want people to be able to quickly & easily find out how to get more dowsing targets.

Could you complete the entry for me, with the below info, with that in-universe speak (whatever that is)?

To gain dowsing targets, certain conditions must be met. Dowsing targets in the left, up, or right do not require Link to have the powered up his sword with Naryu's flame, but the rest of the Dowsing targets do.

Dowsing targets TOP: Story related, cannot miss TOP-RIGHT: Treasures, upgrade a few items at Gondo's scrap shop (can upgrade items you don't intend to keep to trigger this as well) RIGHT: Hearts/Heart Flowers, when your health is low enough that Fi will give you a warning about your health, Fi may offer to have your sword dowse for hearts as a target BOTTOM-RIGHT: Goddess-Cubes, talk to Gorko (the Goron archeologist) at the Eldin volcano summit after you have cleared the third spirit trial. BOTTOM: Free-look, which allows you to look without dowsing. No requirement necessary, unlocked as soon as you learn dowsing. BOTTOM-LEFT: Gratitude Crystals (the single kind, not the 5-pack you get from helping a person's quest). Speak to Batreaux again, before retrieving all Gratitude Crystals, and before you leave room Fi will add Gratitude Crystals as a dowsing target. LEFT: Fetch-Quest items people request to be rewarded a 5-pack of gratitude crystals. Only one of these Fetch-Quest items may be targeted for dowsing, and you must speak to the person requesting the fetch-quest item first before it will appear as a dowsing target. TOP-LEFT: Rupees (including rupees in treasure chests or structures you roll into to knock money out of- such as trees). Speak to the Mogma located in this picture, inside the underground area of the Eldin Volcano. URL is "http://twitpic.com/7vc9lp/full" but if you could find a way to upload this picture directly into the Wiki, that would be awesome.

Thank you. Queazy 07:33, 19 December 2011 (EST)Queazy


 * Yes, I can help improve the Dowsing article. As an aside, keep in mind that we have several editing standards, and I don't think your image is appropriate. We can just as easily describe where to find the Mogma, Nackle. 18:25, 22 December 2011 (EST)

A Link to the Past translations
I remember that a while ago, when I added the German translations to the Twilight Princess Translatons page, which was at that time pretty unorganized, you completely revamped it making it look pretty neat. Now I wanted to add the German translations for ALttP here The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past Translations and noticed that the page is pretty far away from being orderly, so I would like to ask you to help organizing the page with adding tables and images and adding categories such as Bosses or other secondary characters, as I'm not that good with editing and not very familiair wth the Englisch version. I would appreciate it very much, if you could take some of your time to help. SkullJ 23:03, 30 December 2011 (EST)


 * I went ahead and fixed up the table formatting myself, so that's a start. ;) 08:51, 31 December 2011 (EST)


 * I Thank's man ;) SkullJ 12:54, 31 December 2011 (EST)
 * Sorry for the late reply, but it looks like you two have handled most of it already! I guess I'll work where I can, though. :) 09:54, 4 January 2012 (EST)

Altered images
Hi Pakkun. I was just wondering where exactly the difference is between this image and that image. In both cases, all I did was removing the background of an official artwork. Removing the background itself qualifies the image for being altered, so if you're being that literal you would have to take care of all the images in the Character and Enemy sections. So I don't understand why it shouldn't be used in that way, when all the other images are. Bakeneko 00:45, 5 February 2012 (EST)
 * Ah, yes. As per the quality standards, removal of white backgrounds from pictures is acceptable (encouraged, even). However, that is in the case of images without deliberately artistic backgrounds. In other words, if the image was created without a background, then it is acceptable to add transparency to it. However, as the Deku Tree image was created with the background, it becomes a fan-derivative work if the background is removed. Your image is very good, so I decided to move it to the gallery section, where we are more lenient about edited pieces. However, because it technically isn't an acceptable substitute for the original, it can't be treated as an official image, so it can't be placed in the infobox or used in the original image's place. Hope this helps. :) 02:05, 5 February 2012 (EST)


 * Well, it's still not clear. I think the guidelines regarding original images you guys have here are a little bit ambiguous and you are also a little bit too picky about it. The majority of the images I edited so far didn't have a solid background but rather an artistic one. This also holds true for the image potraying Zelda in The Minish Cap which I linked earlier. However, no one cared about those images. And I'm sure there are already alot of images on the Wiki which had there background removed, although it was artistic. Anyways, I'm not here to argue about whether an image has been altered or not. There is no sense in that and it would also be a waste of time. Just let me tell you, that I removed the background for the Deku Tree image, because I thought it would be nice to have all images in Character and Enemy sections with a transparent background. But now it seems that I would need a completely different image to achieve this goal. Bakeneko 13:58, 5 February 2012 (EST)

Link's Awakening Japanese names?
Just curious, but I left the translations section of the Shadow Nightmares page alone because I was not sure on what its Japanese name actually is. Do you have a source on those names at all, or were you just working with what was already on the wiki? For awhile I've been looking for names from the main official Japanese guide for the game, but only find names from a couple of third party guides I've seen scans of, both of which seem to avoid naming the final boss forms in any detail. 20:50, 11 February 2012 (EST)
 * None of those names came from me, but I was just translating what was there. I think Jeangabin was the one to add those names, so you could try asking him. 20:58, 11 February 2012 (EST)

Pronunciation
I hate edit wars and don't want to turn this into one, but I have some experience studying linguistics, and phonology in particular, and I assure you that the diphthong in "toe" is /oʊ/, not /ɑʊ/. The respell key even agrees with me, as it matches "oe" with /oʊ/, not /ɑʊ/. So would you mind telling me what you meant by what you said when you undid my edit? Or, for that matter, why the pronunciation is listed as /dʒɛ ˈruː dɑʊ/ in the first place? --Osteoderm Jacket 00:22, 20 February 2012 (EST)
 * Ah, whoops. Sorry, I guess I was just being unobservant again. I've fixed it, assuming that it's pronounced like it is in Japanese (I don't see why it wouldn't be). Thanks for pointing that out. 00:31, 20 February 2012 (EST)
 * Quite all right. I hope I wasn't too snappish. (Actually, the Japanese pronunciation of the word is /ɡe ɽü do/, as indicated by its spelling in katakana. So an English pronunciation based as much as possible on this while staying within English phonology would be something along the lines of /ɡɛ ruː doʊ/, with a hard G sound. The position of the stress can't really be determined from the Japanese word and would be arbitrary. However, we needn't base our pronunciation of the term in English on the Japanese pronunciation. /dʒɛ ˈruː doʊ/ is fine as well. I was just objecting to /dʒɛ ˈruː dɑʊ/ because it doesn't make sense as a way to read the word in either Japanese or English.) Thanks for listening. --Osteoderm Jacket 00:44, 20 February 2012 (EST)