Talk:Mother & Child Isles

The name of this page is messed up! As with all pages, using an '&' in the title means that the page cannot be linked to directly: Mother & Child Isles. The only way to access it seems to be via the redirect Mother and Child Isles, so i've pointed all pages to that redirect, and decategorised this page, categorising the redirect instead. --Adam 11:33, 29 June 2007 (PDT)


 * OK, I think I've fixed it by creating this redirect: Mother :)
 * --Adam 11:39, 29 June 2007 (PDT)

Should there not be a separate page for Twilight Princess' Mother-and-Child Rocks? It isn't the same thing. Rob 64 12:31, 28 July 2008 (UTC)Rob 64


 * If you think that you can come up with enough content to actually justify a whole page. I can only think of a couple of sentences that would go on that page. 13:47, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * How about 'The Mother-and-Child Rocks are a notable part of Zora's Domain in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess. The structures can be found in the central waters of the domain, and are significant as both an area where the native Reekfish congregate, and as a reference to the Mother & Child Isles found on the Great Sea in The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker. The rocks are much smaller in size than the isle, and it is unlikely that the two are related, since Twilight Princess and The Wind Waker take place at the same time in alternate timelines, and there is no such structure mentioned before or since in any other game.'

Is that enough, do you think? I think even that would do; the Mother-and-Child Rocks aren't the same thing as the Mother & Child Isles, afterall. Do you agree? I'm still slightly uncomfortable editing something without knowing if there is a concensus, but I guess this is a very minor article. It's not like it's a huge story element, huh? Rob 64 20:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)Rob 64

Spectacle Rock
Could this be spectacle rock?

Both Spectacle rock and the Mother/Child Isles are to the north, and have similar qualities. The one on the right is hollowed out, which would help because the original LoZ had a dungeon in the one to the east. Nicktheslayer 21:15, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it is the TWW incarnation of it. However, this would fall under theory, as you probably know. =) However, TWW's spritual version of Spectacle Rock has been tied to Spectacle Island, an island that also incorporates the two-summit appearance. Since your connection is seemingly new, how about you throw the idea into a Zelda forum and see what people think about it before placing it on the page!  05:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)

Gerudo Mesa?
Gerudo Mesa in TP holds a strong resemblence to Mother and Child Isles. It is also in proximity to the forsaken/gerudo fortress. Should I add this to the page? Breen &lt;i&gt;&quot;Can the destiny of Hyrule really depend on such a lazy boy?&quot;&lt;/i&gt; 13:39, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * How does it strongly resemble the Gerudo Mesa? I'm not seeing the connection between an island and a desert, especially since it has been confirmed that The Windwaker and Twilight Princess don't follow the same timeline. 15:03, 5 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah...I'm familiar with what you're talking about but I don't see the resemblance, at all... 19:36, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

TP and WW share a past in OOT. Hyrule is drowned beneath the great sea, but it's still there. We know this because that's where the last dungeon in WW is. Things in old, underwater hyrule have influenced landmarks above the sea. This is evidenced by the Deku Tree's Haven being where the Kokiri forest was in OOT, Dragon Roost Island appearing to be and appearing in the proximity of Death Mountain. There are countless other landmarks that show a connection to OOT, which in an alternate timeline leads to TP. The same is said for this game, it has countless connections to OOT. I the same sense, TP and WW have corresponding landmarks, as both would have a root in OOT. It would be completely possible for M&C Isles and Gerudo Mesa to be the same landmark affected by the drastically different timelines. Viewed from the side, M&C Isles looks a lot like one large mesa dwarfing another. In the time of OOT, there were two palm trees and a grotto in about this same spot. In TP, we have Gerudo Mesa, which contains a few dead trees and a grotto housing the Cave of Ordeals and a significant Great Fairy (the one who gives you Fairy's Tears), and in WW (as I believe) one finds two mesa like structures, one with a huge hole in the top. Once inside, we see varied, enchanted fairy-trees, and (if you've rescued aryll) another significant fairy, The Queen of the Fairies.

Alert me to any holes in my thought process, here. =) Breen H. 18:26, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * If anything, it bears a spiritual resemblance, and a minor one at that. Still, I think it deserves a mention, however, you'd have to explain it throughly on the page so others can see the strong resemblance between them as you claim, as we did not understand it in the least based on your original sentence. You also must distinguish the section of the Gerudo Mesa you are talking about, considering I thought originally you were talking of the entire thing - in no way does a vast desert resemble an island cluster. 18:55, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * The Gerudo Desert is the whole desert the Gerudo Mesa is the one section. It even has it's own page.

Wow, sorry. I just read through our whole thing again and we all sounded like we had attitudes toward each other. XD I didn't mean to sound that way if I did! Breen H. 19:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Nowadays, if you don't have a smiley in the sentence, people think you're mad! hah It's cool, its a good connection either way, you just have to make sure that you specify that it's not the entire Gerudo Mesa you ae talking about, just the platform containing the Cave of Ordeals. =D <--hah  01:14, 11 February 2010 (UTC)