Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword/Archive 1

Project Deluge
Alright, guys, I didn't think to jump on this before but I think that now might be a good time to do so, especially given that E3 is coming up pretty quickly here. All information regarding Project Deluge needs to stay off of this page. Why? The interview could very well be fake - no one has confirmed or denied its legitimacy. Until such time that Nintendo says that it is real, do not add any Project Deluge content to this article. Zelda Wiki.org is not a place to store rumors. If the interview is to be believed, then we will be seeing something at E3 next week. Therefore, if we don't see anything regarding this at E3, we can assume that it's a fabricated interview. --Ando (talk) 12:36, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Alright, nothing was shown at E3 outside of a vague "yeah, the Wii Zelda team and the DS Zelda team are working on stuff??" So no Project Deluge in this article. Although I am considering making a Project Deluge article just so that anyone who doesn't know what it is can search here and read that it is, in fact, a false game. 04:31, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I didn't catch most of the E3. I saw some things. I did see that Nintendo is making an attachment for the Wii controls that makes them more sensitive to motion. That is the biggest piece of news I remember. I'm not sure if it was ever said, it was on the news bar at the bottom (Yeah! G4 TV!). I also heard the Nintendo is putting most of its focus on the DS rather than on the Wii. Can we hope to have another DS Zelda, but that is not a graphical clone of PH (like MM was of OoT)? I also heard, prior to the start of the E3, that Nintendo could be making an even small DS. Did this get announced? 04:39, July 22, 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the Wii MotionPlus was pretty much the biggest announcement, although they did announce a new Wii Animal Crossing, so that's cool.
 * As for a re-designed DS, well, nothing was said. At all, actually. Not even a hinting of it, so I'd say that it's either not happening or that they're waiting for the Tokyo Game Show.
 * Regarding the focus of the DS, it's possible, but Miyamoto said that BOTH Zelda teams (Wii and DS) were working again. 12:43, 22 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well at least we now know that this article not just fan hopefulness. 13:08, July 22, 2008 (UTC)


 * I need ti start finding out more about E3. Is it on any channel, what? 13:29, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

It is always on G4 nowadays. But you may not get it. It was not in the standard package for our TV service. 13:34, July 22, 2008 (UTC)


 * I dont think I have it... 13:37, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

For those of you that don't know, "Projected Deluge" is the alleged name of the next Zelda game given by this [nonexistent] interview. However appealing the interview may seem to some people, a close inspection and a slow read of the interview will reveal that it is flat-out bogus. I would normally point out every flaw in the interview that is contrary to what a game designer would actually do in the real world. But why bother? Countless other people have already done that for me. Just search for "Project Deluge" and read the forums that the search gives. You'll then be convinced of the ridiculousness the interview and then you'll realize, as I did, that it actually never occurred. A Zelda game will never have some insane little boy thinking that he is actually the legendary Link has the hero. Even though Tingle was pushing that boundary. 03:39, July 27, 2008 (UTC)


 * A little harsh, Matt? If this were directed at anyone in particular, that would be worthy of at least a one-day block. :/ Yes, the interview was fake, but people who believe it don't have some insanely high level of "foolishness of believing that such a ridiculous interview actually ever occurred", it just means that they are misinformed and (in the case of some) probably want it to be real so badly that in their heads it is. So... please tone it down next time. Brutal honesty is one thing. An attack is something else entirely. 03:46, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * No one person really. It here as more of preventative measure than anything else. It was really more directed at myself as I was inclined to believe it at first. So it was really a self-inflicted word-bash. I've believed more foolish things before. I'm never hesitant to be harsh to myself, since I know that I would not take anything I said to myself personally. Perhaps rewording parts? 04:08, July 27, 2008 (UTC)

I realize that it wasn't directed at anyone particularly, but nonetheless, thanks for re-wording it. I'm sure that someone would have gotten offended by it at some point. Just, uh, make sure it doesn't happen again, son. 04:11, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, as you know, I don't lie to spare feelings, as that would ultimately hurt them more in the long run. So many people in our society fail to realize that. I will not make exceptions. If a statement that comes up is potentially offensive, but is true, then little can be done about it other than erasing the message. It is not possible to tell someone they are wrong without offending them. That is just a fact of life. You just have to remember that I have their best interests at heart. If you can come up with a way to tell people they are wrong without offending them, then you have just solved one of the world greatest mysteries and you'll go down in history as one of the greatest heroes of all time. ;) But until then, we must do the best with what we have. 04:22, July 27, 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm not implying that people were extremely foolish in believing this, I might have been though. I'm just speaking in generalities. 04:28, July 27, 2008 (UTC)


 * About making exceptions. It is because I cannot trust myself if I become selective about who I am truthful to and who I lie to. I cannot allow myself to lose my integrity that way. If I did that, I'd begin to lie even to myself and I would start to compromise my other morals. It takes discipline. It is not easy. But it is the right thing to do. And that is all that matters. 04:34, July 27, 2008 (UTC)

Jeez, I hope Project Deluge isn't real. What is a Zelda game without Link? If we wanted to be playing a Link Wannabe, the Tingle Miniseries would be the game that was coming out next year. Insane Hero my rear-end! Mantandzelink

Serious Question
Who is to say that the person on the promo is not Zant? After all, I believe that if you slay someone with a triforce, you gain that triforces ability. I believe that it may be the rebirth of the now-immortal Zant as a child. He sort of reminds me of a Twilii from Twilight Princess. Please correct me if I am wrong. I know that my statements would possibly mean that Link would be he holder of the triforce of power, but maybe Link had refused taking it, or his soul was not capable of taking such power, after all he is good-hearted. But Zant obviously believes in the prospect of power. So I would contend that the person on the front of the promo must be the new holder of the triforce of power. Mmaunula13 15:36, 18 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Considering the game has yet to be released, it could be anything. Best to save the assumptions/theories until that time. 16:13, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

You do have a point there, but the character's appearance isn't really that of a Twili, the coloring is all wrong. A Twili has different attire and it contains both white and black as opposed to this creatures pure white appearance. Their skin color too is completely different from this creature, if it really was a Twili, wouldn't it have a gray complexion? But your idea about the creature being the new wielder of the triforce of power is a good idea. However it really only makes sense if this game is a sequel to Twilight Princess because as we have learned from all the other games, Ganon is always the one holding the Triforce of Power. Gaeil 13:54, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

AND the figure in the promo is obviously female,AND, Ganon has ALWAYS been the holder of the Triforce of Power, even though he has died AT LEAST eight times. AND, Zant did NOT have the Triforce, did he? Unless I've been playing the wrong version of the game for three years straight...... Mantandzelink

What I was saying was that maybe Zant has inherited Ganon's triforce. Seeing as he killed Ganon and that he believes in the idea of having power. Mmaunula13 00:47, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

spirit tracks has been released now
Can the line about Zelda Wii not being the only Zelda game being developed be removed now since Spirit Tracks has been released? Magiciandude 01:41, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I changed it to past tense, Which will reflect info for both titles....forever. 04:57, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * It seems unnecessary to mention Spirit Tracks in that way, though, now that it has actually been released. The original line that was there was simply confirmation that Zelda Wii was not the only title in development in the time prior to Spirit Tracks ' official announcement. Now that Spirit Tracks is out, it seems strange to mention that a DS Zelda was in development alongside Zelda Wii unless you say something a little closer to, "Miyamoto confirmed at E3 2008 that there were separate teams working on a DS Zelda and a Wii Zelda, and Spirit Tracks was later announced and released in 2009." Even then, that's pushing it. A mention that Spirit Tracks came out before Zelda Wii seems just unnecessary. It sounds more like a line from someone who thought that everyone was expecting Zelda Wii before the end of 2008, but then Miyamoto said "No, no, we're working on a DS Zelda, too." Teamrocketspy621 20:15, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

The New Midna?
First off, no I'm not saying that the girl is Midna, I'm saying could it be possible that she is a replacement for the Twilight Princess? I was on wikipedia reading on how much people like midna, mabye the new girl is a new installment to help "fill the gap" of Midna.Clarkmaster 20:00, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

some rumors
I've heard some rumors about the Link in this game- that he's actualy the Link from Oot/MM meaning that the Hero of Time is back, and there will be time travel! Also, the girl in the picture is NOT the Master sword, which may not even make an apperence in this game. Also, it would defiendetly go outside of Hyrule, which might not appear as well. In the technical side, you can choose Link to be right or left- handed WITHOUT mirroring the entire game, like in TP. What do you guys think of all this? --Doryban 20:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Well it definitley sounds like interesting information. We'll just have to wait and see what Nintendo gives us at E3. But for now keep the rumors off the talk page. This isn't a forum. --LuigiBros64

Miyamoto Wants Simplify Zelda
I think a few lines from this news article should be included in the article, such as the line "This image plays an important role in the plot. At E3 you will see what I mean," he said, talking about the concept art he showed at E3 2009. http://wii.kombo.com/article.php?artid=15853 Noskap 05:33, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

New info?
I saw in the news that new information was leaked. Should we add something? - User:TheSuperZeldaMan 14:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think so.... Nothing has been confirmed, and as such, they're mere rumors. Most (if not all) of the stuff that we have on this page are facts backed up with credible sources, not rumors, so it would be out of place if the information that was supposedly "leaked" (and who knows if it's true or not) would be placed on this page. Dany36 20:15, 29 May 2010 (UTC)

There is no contradiction. What there IS is a misunderstanding.
People seem to be misunderstanding what Reggie said, and even with this misunderstanding, it doesn't contradict what Iwata said about a 2010 release at all. The article says the following:


 * However, despite the report of a 2010 release, the President of Nintendo of America, Reggie Fils-Aime, recently noted in another interview that Nintendo will only "launch the game when it is perfect", providing the final release date with a potentially large margin of error in comparison to the comment left by Iwata.

For one thing, I watched that interview, so I do know what I'm talking about here: When Reggie said that line, his voice gave no indication that he meant "The game won't launch until it's perfect." What he was really saying was that "When the game launches, it will be perfect." What he said had nothing to do with when that launch will be. Saying that the game will be perfect on release does not mean that the release has to be pushed back at all to attain that perfection - After all, it's not like Nintendo only started working on Zelda Wii shortly before showing off that concept art at E3 last year. They've been at this game for a long time, much longer than the fans would like, and I doubt that the game wouldn't be perfect or incredibly close to perfect it was released by the end of 2010, as planned.

So, in conclusion, there has been a misinterpretation of what Reggie said about Zelda Wii. He wasn't saying anything about when the game would actually release; he was merely stating that so much effort was going into the game to make it right that when it launched - whenever in 2010 that may be - it would finally be a perfected, polished product. He wasn't trying to discourage fans; he was trying to reassure them. Teamrocketspy621 15:19, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree, Zelda Wii is in advanced development, and the only reason nothing was shown yet is to avoid extreme hype to take place (poor Twilight Princess). So that statement in the article MUST be modified for accuracy's sake, at least until things are clarified on E3 '10. Off-topic question: Why is this article called Zelda Wii? I know most people call it that way, but the correct title until the official name's confirmation must be The Legend of Zelda (2010 Game), just like in Wikipedia. Saying Zelda Wii is like forgetting LCT and the Wii version of TP. --K2L 15:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)


 * We are not Wikipedia. We don't have to do something just because they do. The release date is not confirmed so we cannot put a year in the title. Plus, LCT was not a official main series game, it was a spinoff. And TP was NOT a Wii game. The Wii version was a port. Like the Collector's Edition. This game is the first one of the main series developed specifically for the Wii, so the name fits. We'll know the release date at the same time as we know the name. So we won't have to ever worry about the year in the title. The thing is about late year releases, is that they're often pushed to the next year. For now until E3 rolls around in a couple weeks, Zelda Wii is fine. That's what the whole community calls it. We don't follow the fads that Wikipedia starts. They're not the ruler of all wikis, and they're not a role model to follow. 15:50, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess for the same reason Ocarina of Time is sometimes referred to as Zelda 64, even though Majora's Mask is "also" Zelda 64. But yes, I do agree about the misunderstanding there and should be fixed asap. Hopefully someone will change it by the time I get back. Dany36 15:54, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I know we (thankfully) aren't Wikipedia, but I referred to it simply because they referred to Satoru Iwata saying that the game would be released in 2010, and Reggie actually meant to support the claim, hence why the article title should be changed to TLOZ 2010. So it's not because Wikipedia says so, it's because Iwata says so. And by the way, TP was released in Wii nonetheless, so that version is a Wii game, even though it's wasn't meant to be launched to that system at first. That's another reason to drop the Zelda Wii title. And, in any case, I was just making a suggestion. Sheesh, man, I wouldn't be surprised to discover if, because of your cold attitude, you hed so few friends. Like it or not, you must change that nature of yours; I'm real serious. --K2L 16:01, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Around these parts, passing insults to get what you want is generally frowned upon and close to breaking the rules of behavior. It takes about a week at minimum to get proper consensus for any controversial page move, E3 is less than two weeks away anyway. It could take longer than that for a consensus. So just drop it. That's just a fan name as well as Zelda Wii is, and that's what the community calls it. If we were to move it away from that in the time leading up to E3, we'd drastically hurt our search results. On here, we put search results over having a Wikipedia-like title system. We can note on page itself that the expected release is late 2010 along with some of the quotes as references. 16:16, June 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * If the official name is not confirmed (which may be in the event it's scheduled for the next year), then you'll realize that the article's name will have to change anyway, right? (although, in that case, it would be The Legend of Zelda (2011 Game)). And again, the proposal comes from a quote by Iwata. Are you telling me that a fan name rules over a developer name? I hope not. And lastly, providing a suggestion on attitude is very different from "passing insults". But then again, dealing with you in these topics is useless and stressful, so I won't be arguing here anymore. --K2L 16:36, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm siding with Matt on this one. As long as this wiki has been in existence, we've done many things anti-Wikipedia, such as our differing system in Featured Content voting, our Affilates, and even our way of labeling, organizing, and writing articles, not to mention that we never have placed a year in the title of an article, even to this day. In every video, forum, and article I've seen thus far in the community pertaining to the upcoming game, it's either been referenced as The Legend of Zelda Wii or just Zelda Wii. As we are a reflection of the community, the title Zelda Wii makes the most sense for the article, given the short distance from E3. And just because Iwata gave the date, The Legend of Zelda (2011 Game) is in no way a confirmed "developer name" as you say, as he did not confirm the actual name.


 * Matt is firm in his responses, but that is no reason to slander him, K2L. Give your work ethic and nice attitude on the wiki in general, I know you are better than to lower yourself to name calling. Additionally, Matt was making a suggestion as well, as we all are. 16:43, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I guess all of you win then. Just remember I was giving a suggestion, and if Zelda Wiki relies on what the community says, then I have no option but to agree, since I was unaware of that phylosophy (I must have misinterpreted it because of the wiki's policy on consistency); as for "slandering", again, I was not "passing insults", but rather giving a friendly recommendation to improve what he (and you) call "firm responses". I didn't try to provoke a fight, and if there seemed to be one here, I offer my most sincere apologies. But if that's slandering, then I won't provide advices like that anymore (especially not to Matt), and the condition of every user will be up to what he or she says to others, as well as how they say. --K2L 16:58, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Zelda Wii Released in October 2010

 * Even though this is old news, I still think that this should be posted in the Zelda Wii article. I think that it's possible that Zelda Wii will be released in October since Eiji Aonuma said that he's pushing the Zelda team to release Zelda Wii in 2010. And Iwata said that Zelda Wii will be released in 2010. http://www.zeldauniverse.net/zelda-news/gamestop-zelda-released-on-november-1st/ --ZeldaHearts2010 18:40, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Wait until the E3 comes. Then we may or may not have a confirmed date =). --K2L 02:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * As K2L said, it is likely to change come E3 in two weeks. So I'm not sure if it's even worth adding at this point; the bit about Iwata wanting to release it in 2010 is already on the page. The bit about October looks to me like speculation, as even Gamestop has been noted to place titles without a confirmed date in Q4 for a release on Nov. 1st just as a placeholder. 03:59, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Spelling Problems

 * I think that on the second batch of rumors from 2chan, the Master Sword should be spelled the "Master Sword," not the "master sword." Thanks! --ZeldaHearts2010 15:38, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
 * But said rumors aren't (and shouldn't be) included in the article anyway, so it's their bad =P. --K2L 22:46, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Miyamoto Talks About Zelda Wii

 * In this article, Miyamoto said that "For us, it is important to optimize gameplay and make the controls easier. We do our best to make the controls player friendly, since 'Zelda' has become complicated." And he also said, "This image plays an important role in the plot. At E3 you will see what I mean." Noskap submmited the same thing, but there was no response, so I decided to do it for Noskap. So thanks for reading this! --ZeldaHearts2010 8:35, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Rumors that is 100% true!

 * In ZeldaInformer, they posted rumors from a German Zelda fansite. And today, all of the rumors are proven true! So here's the site. http://www.zeldainformer.com/2010/06/breaking-news-latest-zelda-wii-rumors-confirmed.php --ZeldaHearts2010 10:21, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahhh that looks tempting to post...but with E3 just a few days away, we'll just wait it out and see! :x Dany36 17:29, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * No matter how credible a source looks, I think we'd all rather hear it from the horse's mouth, per say, in 48 hours at E3. ZeldaInformer may have a legitimate source, but one should not be so quick to believe everything a fansite says, even if they announce it as confirmed, and say that they have inside connections. We'll get the real scoop from Nintendo soon, and then we shall update the page. 23:54, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Now aren't we thankful that we didn't post those rumors? :P 05:37, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * To be fair, over half of them were true. Thats a pretty good percentage. haha Nathanial Rumphol-Janc 16:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * There were a few that were, but several that haven't been answered yet! So I wouldn't call "over half" true... YET! But I still think it's good that we didn't jump the gun on those, or any rumors for that matter. :P 17:51, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Plot Details (finally!)
Plot details were revealed during during the Nintendo Developer Roundtable:

6:45: How many people remember the scene where Link dives off the cliff in the trailer? That's a very important point for the storyline. This time around, Link is born and raised in a land called Sky Loft, a land floating above the clouds. It may sound unique for someone to live on a floating land, but Link finds it ordinary. A land beneath the clouds is discovered, it's ruled by evil forces, but Link is forced to go there. Link has to travel between the two lands in this adventure. The Skyward Sword is his driving force behind his traveling between lands. That mysterious figure in last year's art is the Skyward Sword. People suspected this to be the Master Sword…but spoiler alert, the Skyward Sword becomes the Master Sword. (laughs).

Source: http://wii.ign.com/articles/109/1098500p1.html

PianoOnWheels 01:57, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Am updating the page right now with this new info. :) Dany36 02:25, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Hyrule
It's been confirmed that it takes palce in Hyrule and the land below Skyloft is, in fact Hyrule. Link500 13:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Could you give us a source, please? Dany36 15:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Skyward Sword Icon
I was wondering if it would be better to change the Skyward Sword Icon on the main page from the E3 2009 leaked picture, to Link's face from this http://www.zeldawiki.org/File:Link_SS_3.png. I mention this because it seems a bit more... official? Not to mention it's simply an awesome picture.
 * A new skin is in the works which will make those icons unnecessary. If you can make one (or anyone else that wants to ;), then we will more than gladly put it on the main page meanwhile. :) Dany36 01:59, 17 June 2010 (UTC)